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Old 10-02-2002, 09:34 PM   #16
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Gekko is a suppourter of monthly fees....

I say, down with monthly fees!!!!!!


But whatever, and Deathshand, I dont think its as hard to get a job as you make it out to be...but soon enough I will be looking for a job, so we will see.
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Old 10-02-2002, 09:36 PM   #17
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or better yet, buy a game that doesn't charge monthly fees
In other words an offline game. This is why I never tought online was "the big Sh!t" as everyone made it seem. But now those same people (I'm not talking about members of this forum) are bitching about it. They wanted online gameplay right? Well, they have it. IMO, it's not bad really. I think it's a reasonable price.
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Old 10-02-2002, 09:37 PM   #18
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In other words an offline game.
can you say SOCOM?
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Old 10-02-2002, 09:41 PM   #19
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But whatever, and Deathshand, I dont think its as hard to get a job as you make it out to be...but soon enough I will be looking for a job, so we will see.
It varies in difficulty from area to area...

And depending on what kind of person you are...

Or wether or not you're extremely crazy shy...

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Old 10-02-2002, 09:49 PM   #20
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It varies in difficulty from area to area...

And depending on what kind of person you are...

Or wether or not you're extremely crazy shy...

Why would being shy matter? Its not like you put that in an application.
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Old 10-02-2002, 10:03 PM   #21
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Why would being shy matter? Its not like you put that in an application.
Yeah I know, forget actually having to walk into the store and ask people questions...

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Old 10-02-2002, 10:06 PM   #22
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Yeah I know, forget actually having to walk into the store and ask people questions...

What like ''Can I get an application'' Not to difficult I wouldnt think.

but once you actually get a job on the other hand...depending on what it is, you might have to do a lot of talking to people, but I dont think I would have a problem with that in a job situation, its a personal situations I have problems with.
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Old 10-02-2002, 10:09 PM   #23
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What like ''Can I get an application'' Not to difficult I wouldnt think.

but once you actually get a job on the other hand...depending on what it is, you might have to do a lot of talking to people, but I dont think I would have a problem with that in a job situation, its a personal situations I have problems with.
If I had a job, I'd deal with things and probably wouldn't be too shy cuz uhh... I'd have to do the job...

my problem is actually going in and asking about a job at some store I've never been to before...

Now enough about jobs... back to the stupid little monthly fees...
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Old 10-02-2002, 10:17 PM   #24
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or better yet, buy a game that doesn't charge monthly fees
Yup, very true, Stu. Darkmaster,.... I am kinda poor ...

Well, only when it comes to videogames... You see, my parents will let me buy anything educational but buying one game even with my own money is a problem. So, don't get the wrong idea and think I am holmless... Just can't buy a lot of games.
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Old 10-02-2002, 10:50 PM   #25
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Gekko is a suppourter of monthly fees....
No, I just disagree with the mass amounts of greedy gamers who think everything should be handed to them for free. Either they think everything should be given to them for free, or they use the reference that PC has free gaming.

I'm just not stupid. Today's consoles can't handle peer-to-peer at anywhere near the level of a PC, that you must depend on remote servers. As a PSO fan, I appreciated Sega constantly patching the servers trying to stop cheaters. Although cheating was still a big problem, I saw the need for people who can keep improving on the servers, making our gaming experience great as long as we want to continue to play these games. I know it's not cheap, and if you play games online, it's well worth the price.

At the same time, I can go play free games like SOCOM. Granted it's really only free because they want to attack Xbox Live and it's Sony's first game, I can still tell its free, and wish it wasn't. SOCOM faced weeks of very poor servers that crashed constantly. Now people still get disconnected quite a bit. Bugs are being found on the maps that allows players to walk in the mountain and shoot the other guys without being seen, and without being able to shoot back. GameShark will come eventually. Hell, we still don't even have player rankings working. I wish SOCOM's crews were working round the clock to improve the experience, but the reality is it costs extra money to do that, and therefore I must settle with the way things are now.

Even Xbox Live is gonna be pricey. Sure the first year is free, but that again is marketing and trying to get people onboard. After that it's monthly fees. And don't forget the stuff they are writing in small print, paying for downloadable content and creating subscription games. Don't be surprised if you're paying $20+ monthly for Xbox Live. But in the end, the Xbox Live users will have a great online experience because they are paying. The PSO players will have a great experience because they're paying. SOCOM is a great game, but the online experience will always have its problems. But I can't expect anything to be done about it, that would be like complaining that something I got for free isn't good enough.

Better get used to it, our economy is getting worse, not better.
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Old 10-02-2002, 11:17 PM   #26
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No, I just disagree with the mass amounts of greedy gamers who think everything should be handed to them for free. Either they think everything should be given to them for free, or they use the reference that PC has free gaming.
Don't think I am one of those "greedy gamers." I respect all the work from developers and publishers. They have to charge monthly so they can handle all those servers. But I just can't pay off $10 a month. It's impossible for me.
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Old 10-03-2002, 03:35 PM   #27
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Well, I added it up. For Canadians, for one year, including all costs*, it's well over $300 to play, EXCLUDING taxes of 14.5% in BC**. That's ridiculous. I think I'm migrating over to Xbox Live... slowly... For that exact price, you could buy an Xbox and a game.

*Game+Modem+Peripheral+12 months of fees
**With tax it would close in on $400. Cripey.
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Old 10-03-2002, 03:58 PM   #28
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14.5 over there... here in Toronto its like 15% me thinks

yeah anyway.. i prolly wont get this game..
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Old 10-03-2002, 04:08 PM   #29
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14.5 over there... here in Toronto its like 15% me thinks

yeah anyway.. i prolly wont get this game..
*cough*

It's 17%. I really feel sorry for you and Quebec-ians.

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Old 10-03-2002, 04:34 PM   #30
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actually, d00d, it's 15% for Ontario...
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