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Old 11-10-2002, 02:25 AM   #16
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Ouch, D-Real, Ouch, I'm really hurt.

You can call me all the names you want... slow, retarded, whatever... is it going to change my opinion? No.


"Horrible controlls are those that hampers a game, gets into the way of gameplay, and makes the game occasionally unplayable by it's own nature. Not the nature of another game, it's OWN nature.

Would the controlls hamper Halo? You bet!(No)
Hamper Golden eye? Yes (No)
Hamper ANY FPS? absolutely. (Not every one)

Metroid Prime on the other hand, plays differently, it's controlls exploit and revolve around the nature of the game? You wouldn't be rushing through MP looking to claim or dodge head short. "


I guess I'm too closed minded to look past the controlls... last time I checked, controlls are a big part of gameplay...

In your opinion there is no such thing as a bad button layout?

"I've seen numerous videos, where various players were ripping through the game, battling enemies, aiming, jumping and what's not with absolutely no problem at all. Clearly the controlls become second-nature after a while. Second-nature is not a way to describe horrible controlls. It is however, it IS a way to describe controlls you become quite comfortable with.

I wonder if it had anything to do with the fact that you spent a life-changing set of minutes with de demo.

Game, if numerous people manage to manuver and handle the controlls perfectly and with incredible ease, I'm inclined to believe it's something ANY gamer can do. Unless of course, you're a bit slow. These aren't gifted people, they are "normal" gamers like you and I."


Um, er... I've seen people who can get 27 million point combos on THPS4 after playing it for a while... I can get 1 million. Just because somthing becomes 2nd nature to one person it doesn't mean it will become 2nd nature for everybody. Does it?

If I sit down with a random football game for 2 hours, and you sit there the same 2 hours, will be 100% just as good at controlling the game? Will the game become 2nd nature to you as easy as it becomes 2nd nature to me? I highly doubt this.

Does that make you slow in any way? No, you just aren't used to controlling a football game. Just like I'm not used to controlling a FPA. If it had controlls like Timesplitters I would have had a much easier time going through the Demo.

I played for 15 minutes (within 2 tries) and the controlls just felt like crap.. maybe in 2 seconds you played it and the controlls felt great. I guess that just makes me slow though huh? IMO, the controlls are so bad and so off that I don't even want to get used to them.

"I understand it's YOUR opinion, but ask yourself, could a player do that if the controlls were horrible as you said or had any real problems at all? Maybe, the problem isn't the game/controlls, but it's you? "

Just refer back to my THPS example. That's why it's MY opinion. Do you even believe in the word "opinion"? I mean, I'm slow and retarded because in my opinion the controlls suck? BEcause it's hard for me to play with those controlls? Just because one guy can control a game great it doesn't mean everybody can, and it doesn't mean everybody will learn to.

Did I hop to my judgement too fast? Maybe. But I wasn't interested enough in the GAME itself, and I didn't like the GAMEPLAY enough to want to learn how to play great. If the game had a great angle (like Halo) I wouild keep playing until I learned how to control it good... but was metroid good enough to force me to learn these new controlls? Hell no.

So, Like I said before, my opinion stands... if it gets over a 9.5 from IGN, it's a rent, if not, I'm not touching it.
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