Go Back   GameTavern > Peanut Talk > Movies & Television
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes

The Hobo: Desolation of Smaug...
Old 12-11-2013, 09:22 PM   #1
Canyarion
Nerd of the Rings
 
Canyarion's Avatar
 
Canyarion is offline
Location: insert funny location here
Now Playing: Lotsa games that I need to beat! | WarCraft III + TFT
Posts: 4,638
Default The Hobo: Desolation of Smaug...

... is terrible. Just a warning, don't expect too much from it. I saw it tonight and there were times where I just had to look away, put my forehead on my hand and slowly shake my head.

But maybe you'll like it, I don't know. This is an action movie slightly inspired by elements of The Hobbit, nothing more.
__________________
It may have other powers than just making you vanish when you wish to... The One Ring

"Quotation is a serviceable substitute for wit" - Oscar Wilde
  Reply With Quote

Re: The Hobo: Desolation of Smaug...
Old 12-12-2013, 06:00 PM   #2
Canyarion
Nerd of the Rings
 
Canyarion's Avatar
 
Canyarion is offline
Location: insert funny location here
Now Playing: Lotsa games that I need to beat! | WarCraft III + TFT
Posts: 4,638
Default Re: The Hobo: Desolation of Smaug...

I wrote a review and even submit it to IMDb (too many 10/10 user reviews at the moment). This is it, pretty much spoilerless:
Quote:
Decent fantasy-action slightly inspired by The Hobbit.

Most reviews will tell you what's so great about this movie and why it's worth watching, but I figured you should hear the other side of the story.

First of all a small note for Tolkien fans. If you thought An Unexpected Journey strayed a bit too far from the book: The Desolation of Smaug looks like the script writers didn't even know there was a book. The movie tries hard to change the story wherever it can, reducing fan-favorite chapters to 5 minute scenes and writing new content that feels out of place.

But it's not only bad if you've read the book. I really wonder what the target audience is, because it feels like it's written for 15 year old boys. There are random action scenes every 10 minutes and 'funny' decapitations every 30. The worst thing here is that the action comes at the cost of character development. You have a band of 13 Dwarfs and a Hobbit, yet you rarely see them interact.

Now I like Elves more than Dwarfs, so I didn't mind seeing so much of them in this movie. But having them show up in every place to save the day feels wrong. Perhaps Peter Jackson thought his cast of Dwarfs wasn't good enough to create an enjoyable movie? Gandalf's scenes in Dol Guldur were an interesting addition in concept, but they are just too slow. I feel his scenes mostly serve as an attempt to raise The Hobbit to The Lord of the Rings' level of epicness. And that just doesn't work.

The story is full of illogicalities. How does entering the mountain to steal the Arkenstone to unite the Dwarfs to kill the Dragon to enter the mountain work exactly?? And remember that heartwarming last scene of An Unexpected Journey, where Thorin finally accepts Bilbo? Well, that's all gone again. Even though he keeps outsmarting all the Dwarfs, Bilbo is back to being an unappreciated 5th wheel of the party. And did the writers really think viewers would be so desperate for a love story that they'd enjoy an Elf and a Dwarf flirting it up? Their scenes feel forced and are painful to watch.

Martin Freeman's acting is top notch again, but sadly he hardly gets any screen time. He only shines in his scene with Smaug. Now Smaug as a character is awesome, no complaints there. Yet most of his scenes are way too dragged out. There's a 20 minute scene with the Dwarfs running around thinking they can defeat him. Only at that point the movie already hinted at the only possible way of defeating him. Perhaps the worst aspect is that these scenes make Smaug look like an unintelligent creature. Dwarfs luring a Dragon around by going "Nana-nanana you can't catch me!" is not only silly and cliché, it's an insult to Smaug's character.

Final complaint: the whole movie builds up to a scene.... that's apparently going to be the opening scene of movie 3. Nobody in the cinema was sure if the movie had ended, or there was just an awkwardly long pause when the screen went black.

A movie like this you'll want to see, no matter how good or bad it is. You can't miss out on such a huge release, especially when it looks gorgeous in HFR 3D. But where I watched each Lord of the Rings movie 3 times in cinema, watching The Desolation of Smaug just once was enough for me.

In the end, most problems of the movie seem to stem from the decision to turn the cute Hobbit tale into three epic movies that have to live up to the Lord of the Rings hype. It doesn't work.
__________________
It may have other powers than just making you vanish when you wish to... The One Ring

"Quotation is a serviceable substitute for wit" - Oscar Wilde
  Reply With Quote

Re: The Hobo: Desolation of Smaug...
Old 12-12-2013, 06:39 PM   #3
Teuthida
A. Naef, 1916b
 
Teuthida's Avatar
 
Teuthida is offline
Location: Sol 3
Now Playing: with power
Posts: 6,460
Default Re: The Hobo: Desolation of Smaug...

That's a shame. Thought it was going to be an improvement over the first one. Really would have preferred a single tight movie.

__________________
Doodles
  Reply With Quote

Re: The Hobo: Desolation of Smaug...
Old 12-12-2013, 08:00 PM   #4
Canyarion
Nerd of the Rings
 
Canyarion's Avatar
 
Canyarion is offline
Location: insert funny location here
Now Playing: Lotsa games that I need to beat! | WarCraft III + TFT
Posts: 4,638
Default Re: The Hobo: Desolation of Smaug...

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1170358/reviews-38
Yay, my review is up on IMDb. I hope some people will find it useful.

Well, An Unexpected Journey was criticized for being too slow. And now the sequel is fast in the scenes that are based on the book, but slow in the new scenes. Maybe you'll like it. It's still worth watching it on the big screen I think.
__________________
It may have other powers than just making you vanish when you wish to... The One Ring

"Quotation is a serviceable substitute for wit" - Oscar Wilde
  Reply With Quote

Re: The Hobo: Desolation of Smaug...
Old 12-15-2013, 02:17 AM   #5
TheSlyMoogle
Knight
 
TheSlyMoogle's Avatar
 
TheSlyMoogle is offline
Location: Morehead, KY
Now Playing: Valkyrie Profile: Covenant of the Plume
Posts: 2,000
Default Re: The Hobo: Desolation of Smaug...

I absolutely hated the first one. I went back and re-watched all the lotr films after and there was much of them that I didn't enjoy either, but, all the boring stuff in the lotr films eventually led to some epic battle or some amazing scene. The Hobbit never did that.

I hate to say it too, because several of the actors in the hobbit are excellent. Just great actors in a shitty film.
__________________
Guilty Gear Anyone?
  Reply With Quote

Re: The Hobo: Desolation of Smaug...
Old 12-15-2013, 06:07 PM   #6
Fox 6
John Lennon in '67
 
Fox 6's Avatar
 
Fox 6 is offline
Location: B.C. Canada
Now Playing: Xbox 360
Posts: 5,055
Default Re: The Hobo: Desolation of Smaug...

The Hobo?
__________________
  Reply With Quote

Re: The Hobo: Desolation of Smaug...
Old 12-16-2013, 06:20 AM   #7
TheSlyMoogle
Knight
 
TheSlyMoogle's Avatar
 
TheSlyMoogle is offline
Location: Morehead, KY
Now Playing: Valkyrie Profile: Covenant of the Plume
Posts: 2,000
Default Re: The Hobo: Desolation of Smaug...

Quote:
Originally Posted by Fox 6 View Post
The Hobo?
Hobbitses and hoboses is the same thingses.
__________________
Guilty Gear Anyone?
  Reply With Quote

Re: The Hobo: Desolation of Smaug...
Old 12-16-2013, 09:13 PM   #8
Fox 6
John Lennon in '67
 
Fox 6's Avatar
 
Fox 6 is offline
Location: B.C. Canada
Now Playing: Xbox 360
Posts: 5,055
Default Re: The Hobo: Desolation of Smaug...

Quote:
Originally Posted by TheSlyMoogle View Post
Hobbitses and hoboses is the same thingses.
Sweet, I see them all the time downtown.
__________________
  Reply With Quote

Re: The Hobo: Desolation of Smaug...
Old 12-22-2013, 03:42 PM   #9
Combine 017
Headcrabs!
 
Combine 017's Avatar
 
Combine 017 is offline
Location: City 17
Now Playing: ...Always playing: Half-Life 2, Half-Life 2:Episode One, Half-Life 2:Episode Two, TF2, EVE
Posts: 2,007
Default Re: The Hobo: Desolation of Smaug...

This movie is # 1 ever right now. For some reason, I dont think IMDB is going to care about your bad review. But you should probably go see the new Bieber movie. Just for comparisons sake. The directer said the movie could have come out last month, but Bieber wanted it to come out on Christmas because he said "Jesus has enough fame, I want to become the new Jesus. People should celebrate me."
__________________
  Reply With Quote

Re: The Hobo: Desolation of Smaug...
Old 12-22-2013, 06:04 PM   #10
Angrist
Dutch guy
 
Angrist's Avatar
 
Angrist is offline
Location: Someplace funny
Now Playing:
Posts: 8,638
Default Re: The Hobo: Desolation of Smaug...

#1?
It's sitting on #133 in the top 250... and it's dropping. And I'm going to buy 10 Bieber tickets just to support the guy!!
__________________
It may have other powers than just making you vanish when you wish to... The One Ring
  Reply With Quote

Re: The Hobo: Desolation of Smaug...
Old 12-24-2013, 12:13 AM   #11
Vampyr
Abra Kadabra
 
Vampyr's Avatar
 
Vampyr is offline
Location: Johto
Now Playing: Xenogears
Posts: 5,594
Default Re: The Hobo: Desolation of Smaug...

I enjoyed it, but yeah, it doesn't compare to the first three LotR movies.

I miss the orcs being dudes in suites. The CGI in these movies looks worse than it the visual effects did in the old ones. I think there are less miniatures being used or something, I'm not sure.

Smaug looks amazing, but other effects that were also present in the older movies just doesn't look as good.
__________________
3DS Friend Code: 2707-1776-3011
Nintendo ID: Valabrax
  Reply With Quote

Re: The Hobo: Desolation of Smaug...
Old 01-02-2014, 03:38 AM   #12
Teuthida
A. Naef, 1916b
 
Teuthida's Avatar
 
Teuthida is offline
Location: Sol 3
Now Playing: with power
Posts: 6,460
Default Re: The Hobo: Desolation of Smaug...

Still haven't seen it but happened upon this.

__________________
Doodles
  Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Forum Jump



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 08:29 AM.


vBulletin skin developed by: eXtremepixels
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
GameTavern