Bin Laden Dead

[Angrist]

I personally think Osama Bin Laden stole Obama's birth certificate.

It's the only logical explanation.

[KillerGremlin]

Originally Posted by Teuthida

^ The last brief moment of American unity was right after 9/11...and look how well that turned out.

Well, that's the thing. Immediately following 9-11, there was a lot of hatred for Al Qaeda. Perhaps some of it was misguided...but hindsight is 20/20. When we went to war I would say it was a pretty 50-50 thing with a lot of people not wanting to go. But we had a solid scapegoat....terrorists. So now that there is no Osama Bin Laden, I suspect that the populace will be less enthusiastic about the war (which is also misguided o_O).

[Dylflon]

Interesting article on the effect of Bin Laden on America.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/story/2...bin-laden.html

[KillerGremlin]

Originally Posted by Dylflon

Interesting article on the effect of Bin Laden on America.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/story/2...bin-laden.html

Yup. This articles hits the nail on the head and kind of reflects the direction I was pointing my last two posts. After consideration, I don't think you can have a free society and never have terrorism. But accepting that implication hurts. It's not ideal, and my guess is that most people don't want to hear it. Hence...the past 10 years.

So then it becomes a policy debate around "where is the middle ground." What has the increased airport security, or the wars, or the Patriot Act really done to stop terrorism? And, how much have those measures helped compared to how much they have hurt us.

I think it will be under misguided pretense that many people will believe that we have absolved terrorism by dethroning Osama. We have crushed the Al Queda! My biggest concern at this point is that people won't actually learn from the history of the past 10 years, and lord knows if you don't learn from the past you inevitably repeat it.

[Professor S]

Osama Bin laden is killed, and within one page of posts, not 24 hours later, it becomes about how awful America is. Amazing. Can't there be one day, one happy day, where people can just objectively admit America did something right without having to compulsively slap a "but" at the end?

America could cure cancer and we'd see posts about how unfair America is to malignant tumors.

[Fox 6]

Originally Posted by Professor S

Osama Bin laden is killed, and within one page of posts, not 24 hours later, it becomes about how awful America is. Amazing. Can't there be one day, one happy day, where people can just objectively admit America did something right without having to compulsively slap a "but" at the end?

America could cure cancer and we'd see posts about how unfair America is to malignant tumors.

But isn't freedom of opinion the most worthwhile America stands for?



Sorry couldnt help but fan the fire hee hee

[Combine 017]

Originally Posted by Professor S

Anyway, hats off the the President for giving the go ahead for committing to an action deep in Pakistan. With so many stories of American military mistakes and stagnation, its good to see a military action where the good guys live, the bad guys die, and everything goes as planned.

In the eyes of Al Qaeda the good guys die and the bad guys won.

I dont think American forces are going to leave Iraq now either.
At least at the end of WW1 they left Germany, and that turned out fine.

[Professor S]

Originally Posted by Combine 017

In the eyes of Al Qaeda the good guys die and the bad guys won..

And a rapist believes his victims "asked for it". Hitler believed Jews were pests to be exterminated for the good of the world. Evil always believes it is justified.

[Combine 017]

Originally Posted by Professor S

And a rapist believes his victims "asked for it". Hitler believed Jews were pests to be exterminated for the good of the world. Evil always believes it is justified.

Thats true, I quite frequently think im justified.

What did they do with Bin Ladens body anyways?
I heard they "buried" it at sea.

And dont add periods to the end of my quotes, thats tampering of personal documents.

[Fox 6]

Way to lose a multi-million dollar helicopter in the Op. LOLZ

[Professor S]

Originally Posted by Combine 017

Thats true, I quite frequently think im justified.

What did they do with Bin Ladens body anyways?
I heard they "buried" it at sea.

It's preserved in amber in Paraguay, next to Hitler's brain.

[Combine 017]

Originally Posted by Professor S

It's preserved in amber in Paraguay, next to Hitler's brain.

Along with dinosaur DNA inside a mosquito.

[Swan]

Ok, just to get this straight I am in no way a fan of ANYTHING Osama did.



But does anybody find it a little strange to turn on the news and see crowds of people cheering over the death of a person?

I understand how he was the most hated person of the past decade and all that, but it still blows my mind to see thousands of people chanting because somebody died.

[Vampyr]

I definitely find it weird, and I've been torn between happiness and pure macabre-ness of it all. It feels very unnatural to celebrate the death of anything.

But I just think back to 9/11. The fear and terror all those people must have felt moments before they died, and what their families had to endure afterwords...and I just can't bring myself to feel anything but happiness that he was killed.

I think it's a dichotomy of human nature - we want vengeance but death is an unnatural thing to be happy about. In the end I guess it comes out to how human you really think he was. I think the people who completely reject the idea that someone could be happy about his death don't fully understand the atrocities he committed.

[Dylflon]

I think the thing to do is be happy that he can't be responsible for any more deaths.