Twilight Princess vs Wind Waker

[Jonbo298]

Originally Posted by KillerGremlin

You forgot Majora's Mask, the lost Zelda game.

I feel like Majora's Mask will be reflected on like Zelda II for NES.

It's a shame because both MM and Zelda II have a lot to offer.

Honestly though, I was initially put off by MM. In fact, I think I wrote up quite a few number of posts on this very forum about how I wasn't a fan. But I've gone back and played it recently, and in today's world of sequels and hard-to-find-innovation, it really is a breath of fresh air.

I should have said updated "realistic" Zelda game

Wind Waker and TP both had bits and pieces that paid homage to OoT. Then again, so did MM but that one was obvious. I think part of the issue why MM was largely "ignored" was that it came out the same day the PS2 did, and by that point, the N64 was on it's death bed. So it was difficult to rejuvenate a base that had likely moved on. OoT came out at the perfect moment.

[thatmariolover]

The only issue I had with Majora's Mask was how long you had to initially play in order to be able to save. Sooooo annoying.

Aside from that, it was a fantastic game. From a technical standpoint it was one of the most impressive games on the N64. I think it would have found more success on the GC or Wii.

[Angrist]

Majora's Mask is one of my favorite Zeldas. And I don't think people look upon it as they look upon Zelda II. There are just too many people who haven't played MM.

Argh, all this talking about Zelda games makes me want to see the next one!! I'll start a topic where we can speculate about the next Zelda.

[Teuthida]

Wind Waker

...then again I never played Twilight Princess. Recently broke out the old cube again. Tempted to buy TP.

[DarkMaster]

Wind Waker is flawed, and is much better than Twilight Princess.

TP is trying to be Ocarina of Time so bad, but it's not even close to matching it. Wind Waker was refreshing, both because of its style and its overworld.

[magus113]

Originally Posted by DarkMaster

TP is trying to be Ocarina of Time so bad, but it's not even close to matching it. Wind Waker was refreshing, both because of its style and its overworld.

My only gripe with that, is that in an essence, any other Zelda game that isn't post- Wind Waker in the "Zelda timeline" (if you can call it that) is going to look like Ocarina of Time, because that's just the way the games need to be made. Wind Waker looked different not only because of it's art style and the overworld since it was all flooded, but Twilight Princess had beautiful environments that I could also say paid an homage to Ocarina of Time. Any other game in that same "time span" would have to stay the same way as well.

And in a sense, Twilight Princess did have more of a style change because it seemed much darker than previous Zeldas.

[Null]

I loved Twilight Princess, infact, possibly more so than ocarina. (link to the past is the best)

liked it much more so than wind waker, i liked how wind waker looked. but the sailing was absolutely boring, and took out a lot of exploration... too much water not enough land. its like they cheaped out, and instead of filling the world with a beautiful environment, they put in the parts they needed and filled the rest with water. sailing was horrible, and annoying.

i thought TP brought in something different, i liked being the wolf and being able to do some different things. neat little twist on the dark/light world. coulda done more with it. but i really loved that game.

[DimHalo]

I think between the two, I liked Wind Waker better. However, I have not completely finished Twilight Princess. The story and worlds are more exciting in Twilight Princess. It is just so much darker that it seems to be taking me longer to play (or maybe I'm just getting old, haha)

[Ric]

This will rock the boat a little.

Personally I think Majoras Mask is better than OOT. If you sat me down in front of them and said play through one of those I would choose MM any day. I liked the fact that pretty much half the game had almost nothing to do with the main quest.

As for ''The Forgotten Zeldas'' What about The Oracle Of Ages and The Oracle Of Seasons. Granted they were made by capcom but there are sooooooooo many unique ideas that have never been used again.

Then there's The Minish Cap one of my favourite Zelda games and again, many forgotten ideas.

What was The Phantom Hourglass if not a sequel in some respect to The Wind Waker.

Now to the point. The graphics in TP were fantastic, everything every Zelda fan wanted since that E3 teaser video of Ganondorf and Link fighting. Large environments and as has been mentioned, a decent amount of dungeons. The trouble with TP was that although there were more dungeons, none of them were very challenging. In fact, they were easy, I didnt get stuck once through the whole game. And taking that spring water to the Goron so the lazy fat bastard would mend the bridge was just stupid. Aside from that there was not much else to the game, no real replay value.

Now for WW. I admit that when I first saw screenshots of this game I was miffed, what the fuck are Nintendo thinking I thought. But then I played the game and am happy to say 'That Is How To Do Cell Shading' fantastic.
There were less dungeons but at least they were challenging. For those bitching about crossing the oceans, what do you think the warp wirlwind things were for?? Duh!!
There was so much more to this game, so much more. You all seem to be forgetting, The trader quests, helping that eskimo dude build his shop then putting trophies on all the plinths around the game world. Then there was the Pictobox. You ever get a Colour PictoBox. Take the photos to the guy at the forest temple and make a statuette for the Nintendo Gallery.
Even more than that, wrig a gameboy advance up to the game and now you have Tingles shop at any time, he can bomb targets, find treasure. There are even unique golden Tingle statues to collect that you can only get this way. Not only that but you can make Tingles brother or cousin or whatever he is Knuckle appear.
Complete WW play through it again as Link with the clothes you start the game in, the Hero Clothes become invisible. every character in the game who speaks hylian then gets translated. Replay Value something TP sincerely lacked.

In conclusion, TP was great, dont get me wrong. But WW offered so much more when you look below the surface. My vote goes to The Wind Waker.

Theres so much more I want to say... meh!