Final Fantasy XIII Impressions - Page 2

Typhoid · 03-12-2010, 04:16 PM

How many discs is the game on for 360?

ZephyrFate · 03-12-2010, 10:26 PM

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I'm going to disagree about the battle system. At what I first thought was depth has turned into "mash a until hp is low, shift to healer paradigm, let heals happen, mash a again"

This probably slightly changes later, as I'm open to more abilities, but I'm a little over 5 hours into the game and it has yet to change.

The game is beautiful. BTW all those screenshots from the 360 version, I don't see any of that blurry lines bullshit. The only problem is, when the game does the soft load stuff like when you're running and stuff through the areas, it will sometimes give a little jump similar to when you lag online for a split second, but not as bad even. I wouldn't call it a problem, and not sure if it happens on PS3 or not. I did however catch a glimpse of the loading times on PS3... Jeezus christ.

Baby Chocobo is super kawaii uguu! (That means super cute in Japanese!)

I've got this strange feeling I aint seein any moogles in this game.

Uhm I find I'm not entirely hating the Crystal grid. Even though everyone has a ravager class right now, each of them learn different spells and abilities which is pretty cool.

The other thing that bothers me is Preemptive strikes in this game. It would have been nice if it just said "Preemptive strike" instead of you actually going around with your leader and attacking each enemy. I got into a battle with 10 enemies earlier and managed to preemptive strike them, and found myself wishing I hadn't. Took like 2 minutes for lightning to go around and whack them all with her sword.

Surprised to say the voice acting is actually pretty good. Snow and Sazh have great voice actors, and lightning isn't so bad.

Absolutely hate Leona Lewis and the fact that her song is in this game makes me feel a little nausea when I hear it. Also when I see the commercial.

For the most part find myself hating all the characters in this game so far except Sazh.

Vanille's Voice actor is fucking terrible, but I enjoy her character so far.

Snow isn't so bad I guess.

Mostly just Lightning and Hope really bug me.

Also lightning's hair just looks stupid.

Oh and I agree with the story being garbage.

There's your problem. Play longer than 5 hours. The battle system is just unparalleled.

Bond · 03-12-2010, 11:57 PM

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Originally Posted by ZephyrFate

There's your problem. Play longer than 5 hours. The battle system is just unparalleled.

Welcome to the forums, ZephyrFate!

uber_paddler · 03-12-2010, 12:28 AM

Yeah, I don't mind Vanille at all. I can see why some would find her annoying, but I think her voice is perfect for the character. Overall, I think all the voices are pretty good, which I wasn't expecting. Snow's great, of course, since Troy Baker is a voice acting God.

I've not noticed any graphical issues either, it's been running smooth as butter the whole time for me.

Also, I think this is probably my favorite iteration of the ATB system. Once it opens up it feels really fluid and dynamic.

DarkMaster · 03-12-2010, 05:30 PM

In the first few hours, I had no idea where I was (pulse or cocoon) or what was going on, why these characters were in that same place at the same time, was very confused. But a lot is being revealed now, especially the past events, and so the story is actually becoming interesting instead of bizarre.

I was watching my roommate play, he's very near the end of the game, and the battle system becomes batshit insane. looking forward to that.

thus far I have no problems with most of the characters, the exception being Vanille who is a ridiculous anime stereotype. People are dying and shit's going down, and she's just giggly and bubbly, I want Lightning or someone else to punch her in the face. Her "in the future narrative voice" sounds a lot more humble and mature, so maybe she changes a bit. Really hope so.

TheSlyMoogle · 03-12-2010, 08:20 PM

So just started chapter 9 and here's what I have to say:

The AI is fucking dumb when it comes to spellcaster classes. Just fucking dumb.

And at the same time it's dumb to make your party leader one of the main spellcasters because of their low hp values, but at the same time you can't stop them from doing dumb shit like casting thunder on monsters when they're weak to fire, or like the ra spells do slightly more chain gauge add on, but instead they'll cast 3 fires instead of a fira and a fire for like 2 more percentage points on the stagger meter. Fucking shitty AI ravagers.

Also synergist pisses me off in the same sense. For example Hope:

He had shell and protect. Well eventually he moved up and got barfire and barfrost(fire and ice resist of a pretty small percent), well I ran into a soldier who had a pretty crappy fire attack that did like 50 damage, well after being barfired it did 49 damage and Hope wouldn't do the one thing I needed him to which was cast protect because the soldiers rarely do the fire thing. But the entire battle he just stood there and cast barfire over and over. This has happened several times since and it almost makes the synergist useless if the enemy has an elemental attack. Seriously.

I mean it's not like the game is that hard anyway, but it would be nice if there had been an option for me push a button and make my AI cast a spell or something. Or that you could control the way they generally flowed (Like setting them to do the most damaging option.)

Typhoid · 03-12-2010, 09:21 PM

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The AI is fucking dumb when it comes to spellcaster classes. Just fucking dumb.

Dude, use Libra.
If you libra an enemy once, every other time you fight that enemy they'll cast on it's weaknesses.
Reading the manual is for winners.

All this thread tells me is that you like to find things to complain about.
I've had no problems with the battle system, nor with the way people cast things.
I find synergists highly useful, as well as Sabateurs.
As long as you have your enemies intel, they won't cast random shit on it, or you.

If I was Earl, this game would be my Nintendo.

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Dear the end of Chapter 9: What the fuck?

TheSlyMoogle · 03-13-2010, 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Typhoid

Dude, use Libra.
If you libra an enemy once, every other time you fight that enemy they'll cast on it's weaknesses.
Reading the manual is for winners.

All this thread tells me is that you like to find things to complain about.
I've had no problems with the battle system, nor with the way people cast things.
I find synergists highly useful, as well as Sabateurs.
As long as you have your enemies intel, they won't cast random shit on it, or you.

If I was Earl, this game would be my Nintendo.

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Dear the end of Chapter 9: What the fuck?

Actually whether you libra or whether you defeat an enemy 1 time will gather you the enemy intel.

Which is a nice way to save your tp for bosses. Also pretty much every enemy has a hidden libra point which only shows up after you defeat it. In effect making Libra basically useless.

Also ravager just is something I would rather control, but not have to worry about the fact that the death hammer is going to drop every 5 seconds.

And Zephyr, I'm now 20 hours into the game, in chapter 10, and the battle system still lacks anything complex or interesting. Mash attacks until stagger, heal hps when low, repeat. The only difference is now I start battles with a synergist in my starting paradigm. Although will say game got a hell of a lot better once you weren't stuck in 2 person parties with the game telling you who the party leader was.

Also Sazh is da man. As well as snow. Oh and Fang is badass too. Oh hey, what do you know, that's my final party. FUCKING YEAR!

Also Shiva is a total whore in this game, and I enjoy how when you summon shiva, snow pops up between the 2 like a pimp and he's all "Sup"

ZephyrFate · 03-13-2010, 03:15 PM

Every game has you mash x... i don't see how that's a complaint. EVERY FINAL FANTASY GAME HAS DONE THIS. If you're not using Saboteur with your Synergist, or changing up Paradigms, then you're willfully ignoring most of the strategy of the game.

Bond · 03-13-2010, 07:38 PM

Am I the only one who actually enjoyed changing discs during the FF Playstation days? It gave me a physical sense of accomplishment.

Fox 6 · 03-13-2010, 07:57 PM

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Am I the only one who actually enjoyed changing discs during the FF Playstation days? It gave me a physical sense of accomplishment.

well then you'll love ME2

BreakABone · 03-14-2010, 01:24 PM

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Also I meant to address this ages ago, but forgot...

Why?

What does it matter if the game is 3 discs or 1 disc?

I'm confused? I mean other than for sheer laziness...

I guess you could lose a disc? However don't know why that would matter, because if you lost 1 disc in FFXIII 360 version, or you lost the 1 disc in the PS3 version, it still makes it unplayable lol.

Confused.

Sheer and utter laziness honestly.
If I'm playing a game, I hate having to switch discs, and nothing ever does it seamlessly.

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well then you'll love ME2

Don't remind me, and for the life of me, I still can't figure out what the hell they did with the discs, you needed it for the beginning, and then could use the second disc for most of the middle, but then needed the first for like the end.

TheSlyMoogle · 03-14-2010, 03:26 PM

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Sheer and utter laziness honestly.
If I'm playing a game, I hate having to switch discs, and nothing ever does it seamlessly.

Don't remind me, and for the life of me, I still can't figure out what the hell they did with the discs, you needed it for the beginning, and then could use the second disc for most of the middle, but then needed the first for like the end.

What FF games have always done it pretty well.

Bond · 03-14-2010, 04:29 PM

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What FF games have always done it pretty well.

I agree. Disc changes in 7 through 9 always seemed quite fitting to me.

magus113 · 03-14-2010, 01:36 AM

The last RPG that's been released recently that I've had to do disc swapping for was Lost Odyssey and that was a pretty nice feeling. I have FF8 from the PSN, so I have the discs there but there's no physical switching. Still feels like a milestone though.

I really want to play this, but something about it makes me feel like I'm just not gonna like it. I don't know if I'm gonna like, rent it or something to try it out like I did with Demon's Souls (which despite it's difficulty is pretty awesome). I've heard more good than bad, but there's something about it that I just don't feel right about and I can't put my finger on it.