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Old 06-15-2002, 10:52 PM   #16
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Isn't that unconstituional?

I mean basically it gives you no freedom whatsoever. I mean bugging everyone's computer takes away their absolute rights of the freedom of speech, petiion, assemby and protect from unlawful searches (Which is what this bill would fall into)
Yeah, in a way it's like giving permission to search without a warrant, and it kind of emliminates the whole idea of innocent until proven guilty, and idea that our founding father's stressed.

I know under any government you have to give up certain freedoms to be protected, but this bill's taking it a little too far. Privacy is an important thing, but if the government's going to take some of it away they should at least do so to protect us from terrorists, not to stop music downloads.
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Old 06-15-2002, 11:10 PM   #17
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Yes, but the constitution can be ammended, and with the increasing amount of computer crimes, it could be considered necessary.

See, even though we don't think of it as a crime, a lot of stuff we do is. I mean, taping a song off the radio is a crime, but we all do it, or did it back when we used tapes. But the thing is, MP3s can give you CD-quality music, whatever song you want, quickly and easily. And if you want the CD, convert it to WAV or AIFF and burn it. It's a much bigger problem.

It'll definetly get worse before it gets better. But you know they are going to stop it. Out in stores right now are CDs that you can't put in MP3 format.
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Old 06-15-2002, 11:14 PM   #18
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Yes, but the constitution can be ammended, and with the increasing amount of computer crimes, it could be considered necessary.
And soon they'll be so many of these computer crimes that my murders will go unnoticed. Um, wha? Just ignore that smell...
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Old 06-16-2002, 02:02 AM   #19
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I knew I shouldnt have voted (err...recomended to my parents to bote for...) that dianne whatever. I propose we give them a piece of our minds...

But I guess that would be dumb to give them a piece of our minds making them smarter, when we hate them...uhhh...
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Old 06-16-2002, 10:33 AM   #20
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Yes, but the constitution can be ammended, and with the increasing amount of computer crimes, it could be considered necessary.

See, even though we don't think of it as a crime, a lot of stuff we do is. I mean, taping a song off the radio is a crime, but we all do it, or did it back when we used tapes. But the thing is, MP3s can give you CD-quality music, whatever song you want, quickly and easily. And if you want the CD, convert it to WAV or AIFF and burn it. It's a much bigger problem.

It'll definetly get worse before it gets better. But you know they are going to stop it. Out in stores right now are CDs that you can't put in MP3 format.
Yes, the Consititon may be amended, but you can never change the First Ten which is what unlawful searches fall under.

Aslo, a law is below a constituional amendment. In order for this law to become an amendement, it would have to go through all 3 branches, and I'm pretty sure that the Supreme court would see this as unconstitutional or we have one screwed up gov't.
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Old 06-16-2002, 10:59 AM   #21
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Good thing I live in Turkey, where even the police buy illegal CDs .
Actually, everyone buys them. Me? I don't buy them, I borrow them (good ol' CD-RW ).

That was a joke. But I do make music CDs.
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Old 06-16-2002, 11:02 AM   #22
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Screw this. I'm moving to Canada
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