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Old 01-16-2003, 06:29 PM   #16
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I dont beleive in a god or heaven or hell... kinda feel like im missing out
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Old 01-16-2003, 06:30 PM   #17
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Nope, it's just an idea people use to comfort them and make death not seem as bad as it would be if they thought it was just 'you're dead the end'...

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So you think that when you die, it will just be like an eternal sleep? Like.... Nothing is happening.... nothing and blackness? or not even blackness? Just nothing... lol.
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Old 01-16-2003, 06:33 PM   #18
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I'm a Christian. I believe that in order to gain access to heaven, one must declare Jesus Christ as their Lord and Saviour.

That's what I believe.
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Old 01-16-2003, 06:40 PM   #19
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just to throw in some questioning...instead of asking ourselves what kind of person gets into heaven, why not ask 'is there really a 'heaven'?
Nah.

I was thinking the other day, let's say there is a heaven and no matter what you did on Earth everyone got in. Everyone. But since you didn't know until you died, you didn't know you could have done whatever you wanted. Even killed yourself so you wouldn't have to deal with all the stupid people around you ...

Would kinda suck. Like eating scrambled eggs with sugar poured over it. Yep.
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Old 01-16-2003, 06:41 PM   #20
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I'm a Christian. I believe that in order to gain access to heaven, one must declare Jesus Christ as their Lord and Saviour.

That's what I believe.
So Jews, Hindus, Muslims, Sikhs, Buddhists, Confusisists, Daoists, Shintos (sp?) all do not get into heaven?
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Old 01-16-2003, 06:48 PM   #21
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So you think that when you die, it will just be like an eternal sleep? Like.... Nothing is happening.... nothing and blackness? or not even blackness? Just nothing... lol.
thats how I see it, an eternal sleep. the whole concept of Heaven is, IMO, quite strange. I am Christian, and I cant remember the last time i went to church, but no matter wut I am taught by the church, there are still things I cant force myself to believe. Even God sounds like a fairy tale, one almighty being that created everything and rules all but never shows himself in any physical form, and yet we must trust to faith that he somehow exists in another realm waiting for us when we die.

and wut is the point of living if we are to one day die? why are we to stay in heaven forever but remain on Earth only for a certain period of time? all those events from the bible, why do none of those happen in the present or recent years?we are expected to believe in all those crazy stories in the bible after being brought up in a modernized world. It's not that I dont believe in God or heaven, I just have so many questions and theories.
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Old 01-16-2003, 06:51 PM   #22
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I think that DarkMaster should seriously look into Buddhist beliefs for some answers.
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Old 01-16-2003, 06:53 PM   #23
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Why? Because of reincarnation?
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Old 01-16-2003, 06:56 PM   #24
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Just seems that since he doesn't really believe in God, and doesn't really believe in heaven and hell....


And yes, the not believing in heaven and hell brings reincarnation to the scene.
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Old 01-16-2003, 07:12 PM   #25
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I'm technically a Christian though I lean towards more Agnostic beliefs I guess...Religion has never been an important part in my life and I don't feel it has to be.
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Old 01-16-2003, 07:17 PM   #26
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And yes, the not believing in heaven and hell brings reincarnation to the scene.
Or the belief that when you're dead you're dead the end

Reincarnation would be nifty though
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Old 01-16-2003, 07:32 PM   #27
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I cant imagine not actually thinking, when Im dead...Of course I wont have to worry about that if being dead is just the end.
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Old 01-16-2003, 07:43 PM   #28
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there's a reason humans exist...how we're at just the right distance away from the sun that we're able to live...how gravity is so convenient...how, from our knowledge, no other planet has intelligent life

I can't believe it's all just chance...someone/something created us...or created whatever we evolved from...some unknown power

And I'd also like to know why everything that has shaped most religions happened so long ago that nobody really knows if it actually happened, or if it was just a well thought-out story to satisfy one's emptiness.

I believe there will be SOMETHING after death...why waste a human soul (something truly magnificent) on a body that will only live 70, 80, 100 years max? I notice that most people who think that death is THE END seem unfulfilled with their life. You would think that if you were to believe that this is it, you would think of life as something more fragile, and would do anything and everything within your power to live the best life one could possibly live. But that's hardly the case.
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Old 01-16-2003, 07:47 PM   #29
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Atheists don't believe in a higher power of any sort, there isn't a God. Agnostics aren't sure, they don't know, and perhaps, they don't care.
thx for clearing that up...i'm a little of both i guess
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Old 01-16-2003, 07:52 PM   #30
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I don't really have a preferred religion.(can't remember the name of someone without a religion). But I think there is a God and a heaven.
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