Politically Incorrect: Gay Marriage - Page 2

Dylflon · 08-05-2003, 07:03 PM

We're not arguing about gay marriage. We're discussing it. And marijuana won't be legalized. They just won't arrest you for having it.

kevin · 08-05-2003, 07:17 PM

I highly doubt that the United Nations would expel Canada for legalizing marijuana. And if you do, I'd like some of what you're smoking!

The main reason that I doubt that Canada would be expelled from the UN for legalising marijuana is because Iraq hasn't even been expelled. Nope, not after the Gulf War, and after Saddam allegedly poisoned and gassed his citizens.

Homosexual marriage is the next logical step forward for a country that prides itself on being the 'land of the free'... Why not make yourselves free-minded as well?

In my opinion a previous poster was correct when he said that a priest should not be compelled to marry anyone that he/she felt should not be married - Canada's own proposed legislation allows for that and respects religious ideals.

Stonecutter · 08-05-2003, 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by kevin

I highly doubt that the United Nations would expel Canada for legalizing marijuana. And if you do, I'd like some of what you're smoking!

The main reason that I doubt that Canada would be expelled from the UN for legalising marijuana is because Iraq hasn't even been expelled. Nope, not after the Gulf War, and after Saddam allegedly poisoned and gassed his citizens.

Homosexual marriage is the next logical step forward for a country that prides itself on being the 'land of the free'... Why not make yourselves free-minded as well?

In my opinion a previous poster was correct when he said that a priest should not be compelled to marry anyone that he/she felt should not be married - Canada's own proposed legislation allows for that and respects religious ideals.

Don't be a stranger dude.

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As for my stance. I'm catholic and after what the church said about gays the other day, I'm never going to participate in mass again.

Now, I haven't been for awhile, but **** these assholes.

Gays = Wrong
Gay Priests = ehhh....errr....

WTF kind of stance is that.

Joeiss · 08-06-2003, 12:54 AM

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Originally Posted by kevin

I highly doubt that the United Nations would expel Canada for legalizing marijuana. And if you do, I'd like some of what you're smoking!

I remember reading in the paper something about UN's rule about no legalizing certain drugs... And marijuana was on it... yep...

GiMpY-wAnNaBe · 08-06-2003, 01:48 AM

find me that article....:P

Xantar · 08-06-2003, 02:13 AM

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Originally Posted by TheGame

Am I against it? HELL yes... Do I want to make my case? HELL no. (

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It would just turn into an arguement that will lead nowhere.. somthing about religion, morals, where this country came from and where it's going... I've been through this crap one too many times here, and for the sake of keeping peace, I don't want to take it there again.

I hope it's not that stupid argument where gay marriage is somehow equated to sodomy and incest. And yes, I just called that argument stupid. The counter-argument to that one is so obvious and straightforward that I won't bother to lay it out.

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Originally Posted by Kitana85

Sighs I wish the 50+ year old peeps agree with you guys

Well, if the majority of us young people aren't against homosexual marriage, then there's hope yet. All we have to do is wait for all those 50+ year old peeps to die off and then the world would change.

Yeah, it's a slow process, but democracy is like that.

TheGame · 08-06-2003, 03:07 AM

"I hope it's not that stupid argument where gay marriage is somehow equated to sodomy and incest. And yes, I just called that argument stupid. The counter-argument to that one is so obvious and straightforward that I won't bother to lay it out."
-Mr. X-

a sin is a sin is a sin... period.

Also, thanks for calling my arguement stupid... I mean, you completly know how a gay person's mind works, right? Plus you know how incest people think too right? It's completly different right? Can't argue with that...

honestly, I don't give a damn what you think.

I'd accept a brother being married to is sister before I'd accept any type of gay union. In the end, they are just hurting themselves. Just one more step in the wrong direction.

But anyway... the way I see it, a sin is a sin, is a sin. What's right is right, and what's wrong is wrong. Most people can tell the difference, some can't. I think Gay people can't.

This is just what I believe, you can question it all you want, but you can't change it.

Vampyr · 08-06-2003, 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by the game

a sin is a sin is a sin... period.

Also, thanks for calling my arguement stupid... I mean, you completly know how a gay person's mind works, right? Plus you know how incest people think too right? It's completly different right? Can't argue with that...

honestly, I don't give a damn what you think.

I'd accept a brother being married to is sister before I'd accept any type of gay union. In the end, they are just hurting themselves. Just one more step in the wrong direction.

But anyway... the way I see it, a sin is a sin, is a sin. What's right is right, and what's wrong is wrong. Most people can tell the difference, some can't. I think Gay people can't.

This is just what I believe, you can question it all you want, but you can't change it.

What, no shades of gray? If wrong is wrong, as you say, and right is right, then why would you except a brother marrying his sister before you would a guy marrying another guy? They are both wrong, according to the christain religon. A sin is a sin, is a sin, right? You can preach to them all you want, you have that right. Its one of the goals of Christains, to convert the entire world. But in the end, the choice is theirs.

You mentioned that they are just hurting themselves, and that they cant tell the difference between right and wrong. They're gay, not stupid. If they dont see anything wrong with being gay, then fine. If they are condeming themselves to Hell or whatever, than thats their choice too.

I realize I cant change your mind, but this is just what I believe, you can question it all you want, but you can't change it.

Professor S · 08-06-2003, 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by TheGame

"I hope it's not that stupid argument where gay marriage is somehow equated to sodomy and incest. And yes, I just called that argument stupid. The counter-argument to that one is so obvious and straightforward that I won't bother to lay it out."
-Mr. X-

a sin is a sin is a sin... period.

Also, thanks for calling my arguement stupid... I mean, you completly know how a gay person's mind works, right? Plus you know how incest people think too right? It's completly different right? Can't argue with that...

honestly, I don't give a damn what you think.

I'd accept a brother being married to is sister before I'd accept any type of gay union. In the end, they are just hurting themselves. Just one more step in the wrong direction.

But anyway... the way I see it, a sin is a sin, is a sin. What's right is right, and what's wrong is wrong. Most people can tell the difference, some can't. I think Gay people can't.

This is just what I believe, you can question it all you want, but you can't change it.

Lets disect this argument for a moment:

1) We live in a secular society, not a religious one. Your religious ideals of "sin" based on the bible have nothing to do with whether or not it should be legal under out constitution.

2) Ok, how does being gay equate to incest? And lets try to not make too much of a stretch here when you attempt to explain.

3) You ask us if we know whats going on in a gay person's mind. Well, do you? Didn't think so. In fact most modern evidence suggests that gay people are born that way. Wait a second... aren't all men created in God's image???? GOD'S A BI-SEXUAL!!!!! Mind blowing...

Also, if you are going to attempt to back up the legal aspects of why gay marriage should be banned, lets keep religion out of it, as it has no place in our government. I'm interested in your non-religious arguments.

As for religious arguments, if all men are made with free will according to the bible, why should we make gay marriage illegal considering it doesn't HURT ANYONE? Isn't it up to God to make that judgement when they die? I also remember something about "judging" in the bible too, and how we humans shouldn't do it.

Bond · 08-06-2003, 08:31 AM

Well, lets separate this.

I was talking about legalizing gay marriage. Justin's only case right now is a religious one, which would obviously not hold up.

If we are talking about accepting gays into the Christian or whichever Church then he does have a religious argument.

Although both of his arguments are wrong because he turned down by McNair/Favre trade.

By the way, does anyone see Church attendance going way down in the near future?

Jonbo298 · 08-06-2003, 09:15 AM

I finally gave it enough posts to get a general idea of what gt'ers think.

I for one am not against gay marriages. If 2 men or 2 women want to marry, let them! But we live in a society where morals/religion is taken into affect waaay too much. I'm not saying we shouldn't base everything around religion and morals, because there are some scenarios where it just is too wrong. But if 2 men or 2 women want to get married, its their choice, not the govt's choice.

*On Bonds Last Question*
Attendance might go down. There will be people out there who will probably send death threats, hate mail, or nasty phone calls to the (I dont want to start a stereotype, but I dont remember his name) "gay bishop". I hope whomever does attempt it (and you know it will happen), gets prosecuted to the fullest extent because he/she will deserve it.

gekko · 08-06-2003, 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by TheGame

I'd accept a brother being married to is sister before I'd accept any type of gay union.

Which the US does allow if one of the siblings is adopted.

GiMpY-wAnNaBe · 08-06-2003, 12:21 PM

how can you accept siblings getting married before gays??? if siblings get married and they have children odds are their gonna have eleven toes, or some other genetic mutation. What happens when two gay ppl get married? nothing! their just with the person they want to be with, nothing more, that and they get the benefits from the government for being married, who does that hurt??? how does that affect YOU???

Kitana85 · 08-06-2003, 12:31 PM

If gay's could get married, they wouldn't be having sex out of marriage... besides, who would want to be gay.. I mean, people don't tend to go out of their way to get persecuted... what ever...

I just think they should be able to get the same medical benefits as straight people... it comes down to this

If two gay men have been together for as many as 25 years, as one is dying, the other WOULD NOT BE ALLOWED AT HIS LIFE-PARTNER'S BEDSIDE AS HE DIED. He would have no claim to any of his partners belonings, and if the house was in his partners name, he would have no claim to that.

The dignity of both are taken away and their is no recourse... they can't even be with their partner as they die, as a husband of wife could be.

TheGame · 08-06-2003, 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Bond

Well, lets separate this.

I was talking about legalizing gay marriage. Justin's only case right now is a religious one, which would obviously not hold up.

If we are talking about accepting gays into the Christian or whichever Church then he does have a religious argument.

Like I said in my first post, let them get married, but don't make it manditoy or and church or pastor to marry them.

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Although both of his arguments are wrong because he turned down by McNair/Favre trade.

lol, now honestly, you expect me to trade my first pick for just McNair?

As for everybody else's posts, I didn't read past a couple of lines

I will read and reply in another post