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Old 07-11-2008, 11:52 AM   #31
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Too lazy (and in too much of a hurry) to quote right now, so I'll just say what I have to say

First of all, yes, this has been a very civil discussion. And I sincerely hope that there are no hard feelings from anyone.

Now, about the subject. Well, it's gone on for too long, and it probably won't go anywhere, as this is what the whole world is talking about and nobody has gone anywhere with it. So I'll just state my primary concern - the policing of the world, as Prof put it. I just don't feel it's right. It may be what the world wants, but I don't think it should be like that.

Oh and I of course don't have any evidence to prove that Iraq wants the US out of their business. I should have stated that that was my opinion.

But I do have to say, on the topic of the "nanny state", I didn't mean the government should look after everybody in need. I meant that the US should first sort out their more obvious internal security issues.

And that's that..
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Re: Iran photoshops missiles into picture to appear powerful
Old 07-11-2008, 12:01 PM   #32
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I thought this was a really interesting 3 part documentary. The Power of Nightmares
I think you can see it all on google video.
I'm watching this on google video right now. It is quite intriuging.

P.S. While this film is still interesting, it certainly doesn't prove anything was a "myth." There's no examination of the Soviet Union, or the Soviet Union's leaders, Marx's ideals on the base and superstructure. It's just, "oh yeah, we proved that last time."
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Old 07-12-2008, 04:27 AM   #33
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New Iranian Missles

from digg: http://www.flickr.com/photos/49403380@N00/2658316482/

if this doesn't make you roflcopter i don't know what will
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Old 07-12-2008, 10:18 AM   #34
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I'm watching this on google video right now. It is quite intriuging.

P.S. While this film is still interesting, it certainly doesn't prove anything was a "myth." There's no examination of the Soviet Union, or the Soviet Union's leaders, Marx's ideals on the base and superstructure. It's just, "oh yeah, we proved that last time."
Its more of the same relatavist nonsense. It's cognitively interesting to make arguments such as "black is white and everything we think is wrong", but in the end it is mental masturbation: Momentarily entertaining, but when the moment is over it means nothing.

Just because you compare our government to terrorists, doesn't make it so, it just means you can manipulate and argument when you are the only voice in the room.

A reviewer compared it to the Matrix in terms of opening eyes, and I would agree. I loved the Matrix as I found it to be a compelling story that played on our sense of certainty and unerlying doubt. But in the end it is fiction, just like the argument "The Power of Nightmare's" atrempts to make.

FYI: I didn't watch the whole thing, but honestly, its all be said before and revisionist history for political expediency is nothing new, and goes back to the Cold War, if not earlier. I huess what bothers me the most about journalists like this is that they act like they're breaking new ground, when all they do is repeat one another ad nauseum.
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