So by your "logic" something is pie-like because it contains a vegetable/fruit/nuts and cream cheese?
You know what else is like pie then? Ice cream. Also, fruit salad. Ooh, trailmix. All those nuts. When one eats pea soup or has a bagel, one should immediately think of pie.
Vegetable cream cheese on a bagel. Can't get more pie than that! No.
So by your "logic" something is pie-like because it contains a vegetable/fruit/nuts and cream cheese?
You know what else is like pie then? Ice cream. Also, fruit salad. Ooh, trailmix. All those nuts. When one eats pea soup or has a bagel, one should immediately think of pie.
Vegetable cream cheese on a bagel. Can't get more pie than that! No.
You have no argument.
Even if you disagree with me on this, what does it have to do with the pie vs. cake disagreement? Trying to distract us from the insane illogical meanderings of you and your fellow cake-people?
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Even if you disagree with me on this, what does it have to do with the pie vs. cake disagreement? Trying to distract us from the insane illogical meanderings of you and your fellow cake-people?
How didn't his reply have to do with the cake vs pie argument?
You mentioned how carrot cake is more like a pie based on several criteria so he took your argument to the logical and extreme end to prove the fallacy in it.
If the only requirement to be a pie was that it had fruit/veggies or whatever and cream cheese, then reason would be that other things with those qualities could also be considered pie or pie like. Since they aren't it disputes your claims about carrot cake being pie like.
Anyhow, I still think cake win for variety and aesthetics. Pies are nice, but they aren't really that special.
That was an objective observation. I personally do not prefer Cheesecake pie. My favorite is Apple pie, namely, my mom's Apple pie. My second favorite pie is Pumpkin.
But yes, Cheesecake is a kind of suspension, structurally. What makes it keep shape is the setting of egg proteins that capture liquid, therefore keeping its pleasant texture that rides the line between solid and liquid. But it is not a solid.
Cake on the other hand is also held together by protein, but adds starch. It does not trap liquid, but instead the chemical leavening agents create tiny air bubbles that give cake its texture.
So really, cake and cheesecake/custard pie are dessert opposites. Pie is filled with delicious sauce and syrup, while cake is filled with hot air.
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Only in your confused, emaciated little minds. My typo does not invalidate the evisceration your beloved foodstuff just received. So much so that you abandoned your arguments to bring attention to a misstatement.
Good for you. What is your point? I said nothing about "apples in crust", my comments were about how pie and cakes are structurally different, and that pie is not a solid.
Apples being in cake does not make it rise and set any differently.
Soooooo is that defeat? Because you really haven't had any convincing arguments other than you like the stuff your family bakes. Which is fine if that's your preference. Just know you're wrong.