09-04-2002, 06:11 PM
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I stopped reading this thread somewhere on the second page cause you guys was just saying the same thing over and over again... maybe someone pointed this out before this post but.. in Metroid Prime... your main weapons like charge beam and wave beam and ice beam plasma beam have no ammo... infinite ammo... but the missles and stuff you have a limited amount...
I just felt like posting that after Null asked for a difference between Halo and Metroid... Im assmuming you have a limited amound of ammo in Halo? Ive never played it 
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09-04-2002, 06:40 PM
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Originally posted by Mushlafa
I stopped reading this thread somewhere on the second page cause you guys was just saying the same thing over and over again... maybe someone pointed this out before this post but.. in Metroid Prime... your main weapons like charge beam and wave beam and ice beam plasma beam have no ammo... infinite ammo... but the missles and stuff you have a limited amount...
I just felt like posting that after Null asked for a difference between Halo and Metroid... Im assmuming you have a limited amound of ammo in Halo? Ive never played it
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dont bame ya for stoping reading it. hehe
differences i meant in game style. not actual game play. like maps are differnt, differnt controls differnt characters or differnt ammo stuff.
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09-04-2002, 07:01 PM
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But to what you said. it all means nothign. cuz once again. People WHO HAVE PLAYED THE GAME SAY FPS.
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Yeah, and the official Nintendo website says adventure, I'm sure they played it too... They played the game just as much or more (I'm guessing more) than any IGN or Gamespot editor, and they say adventure.
So please, shut that dumb argument up and come up with another excuse
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09-04-2002, 07:06 PM
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The Nullified One
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Originally posted by BigJustinW
Yeah, and the official Nintendo website says adventure, I'm sure they played it too... They played the game just as much or more (I'm guessing more) than any IGN or Gamespot editor, and they say adventure.
So please, shut that dumb argument up and come up with another excuse
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Yea, nintendo could say its a water polo game and you'd gullibly take thier word on it. nintendo said fps, then changed it to what everyone wants to hear. adventure.
I'll still take what people say its like over what a company wants you to beleive its like.
So i suggest you too come up with a better argument cuz nintendo says this and that is getting rather old also.
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09-04-2002, 11:02 PM
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Ok, so you say that GameSpot editors who have actually played the game say that Metroid Prime is an FPS. Well, Matt Cassamassina has also played the game, and he says otherwise.
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Matt responds: A true slip of the tongue, my friend. To clarify, I should think that Metroid Prime is in fact a first-person adventure with shooter elements. Has Nintendo brainwashed me? No, no, seriously -- hear me out on this; the game couldn't be more the opposite from, say, TimeSplitters 2, which is a true FPS. How's that? Well, it's all in the play setup, really. Metroid controls differently, for one, with emphasis on Samus's different targeting modes and gadgets, not to mention her ability to morph into ball form. Second, it moves like an adventure. For instance, in some places, Samus will be able to walk through an entire locale without the need to blow a single enemy apart -- not the style of a shooter.
But it's really just a label. The game does take place largely in first-person mode and there is shooting, so if some gamers feel better about it, they can dub it an FPS. And similarly it's an adventure, so that applies too. I've come to think of the first-person shooter as a kind of "shoot first and ask questions later" genre, and Metroid Prime is definitely not that. So, for me at least, the FPA label works better.
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What he says sounds reasonable enough to me. And it is possible that different people will have different opinions (as he points out). But based on what he says and what I have read about the game, Metroid Prime just doesn't seem to be an FPS unless your definition of an FPS is simply first person game in which you have a gun.
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09-04-2002, 11:17 PM
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KinG of GameTavern
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Originally posted by Null
Yea, nintendo could say its a water polo game and you'd gullibly take thier word on it. nintendo said fps, then changed it to what everyone wants to hear. adventure.
I'll still take what people say its like over what a company wants you to beleive its like.
So i suggest you too come up with a better argument cuz nintendo says this and that is getting rather old also.
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When did anybody say they want an adventure more? What makes a FPA better then an FPS? Id like to see another FPS by Nintendo. Your jumping to conclusions...the only reason people say its FPA is because Nintendo has said it is. A FPA is no better or worse then an FPS. Now given, I repect IGN and Gamespot on a level. NP actually works and plays at NOA HQ. Now call me crazy, but maybe, JUST MAYBE, you have to play the game enough to understand that it is very much an adventure. Maybe it just seem like an FPS in the start because the story is unfolding as you play a long.
So many reasons they could be wrong when they say its an FPS.
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09-04-2002, 11:18 PM
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THANK YOU! (Xantar)
man, it took this long to get a rasonable argument.
Atho he does mainly refer to controls, which the gamespot people did say its got unique controls. unlike other FPS games.
and Matt here doesnt really rule out FPS either.
he too refers to it having shooter elements.
And he has a good opinion on what he defines shooter as. and says its not exactly that.

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09-05-2002, 01:34 AM
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The Greatest One
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Originally posted by Null
THANK YOU!
man, it took this long to get a rasonable argument.
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09-05-2002, 08:29 AM
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So people who've played it say it's an FPS. Ever thought about that they probably got to play a bit more action lvls and a bit less adventure gameplay??
It's only a name BTW, what's the big deal?
You could call it a FPS, but remember that FPS rely more on linear lvls and a lot of shooting and killing.
Metroid Prime has a inlinear gameplay and relies more on finding stuff to progress, which is typical for an adventure game.
So... although you could call it a FPS, a FPA would describe it better.
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09-05-2002, 11:34 AM
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The Greatest One
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Originally posted by Null
Yea, nintendo could say its a water polo game and you'd gullibly take thier word on it. nintendo said fps, then changed it to what everyone wants to hear. adventure.
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Everybody wants to hear Adventure??? Maybe I'm mistaken, but when Metroid had it's first shots shown I was extremely happy because I thought it was a FPS, then when I heard FPA my expectations for the game went down.
I didn't want to hear FPA, apparently you didn't want to hear FPA, so who is this "everyone" you are talking about?
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I'll still take what people say its like over what a company wants you to beleive its like.
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What they want me to believe it is??? I never went to Nintendo.com for Metriod UNTIL you said it wasn't an Adventure. I was like you, listening to second hand sites, and I got the Adventure impression from everybody.
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So i suggest you too come up with a better argument cuz nintendo says this and that is getting rather old also.
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Your "Nintendo is Lying" arguement must be a lot worse, seeing that nobody here agrees with you and my worst (forum) enymys agree with me.
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09-05-2002, 03:24 PM
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The Nullified One
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nah. i got exactly what i wanted out of this topic. in more ways then one people have admited its not a definate FPA. i never said it was a definate FPS. but more and more its comeing thro that there ARE obvous FPS elements in it.
and maybe you were happy, but i remember a HUGE outcry when they announced first person. people were a wide range of dissapointment to damn upset. there were many topics on the forums about it when it happend. And nintendo came out and tried to explain more on it to settle people down so to speak.
just because nintendo is trying to make it something. doesnt mean the finished product will turn out to be that way. And thier intrupratation of what the game is could be differnt then what the gaming public see's. when you program or make something. its sometimes VERY differnt to you then to others.
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09-05-2002, 03:45 PM
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The Greatest One
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nah. i got exactly what i wanted out of this topic. in more ways then one people have admited its not a definate FPA. i never said it was a definate FPS.
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har har har... you got what you wanted out of the thread??? Who said it isn't a cut and dry FPA??? Who agreed with you on ANY point???
I think you need to read a little closer. Oh, and you did say it's a FPS, look at your first post.
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09-05-2002, 04:46 PM
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The Nullified One
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har har har... you got what you wanted out of the thread??? Who said it isn't a cut and dry FPA??? Who agreed with you on ANY point???
I think you need to read a little closer. Oh, and you did say it's a FPS, look at your first post.
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"wah"
it is a FPS.
its also a Adventure,
and its even a Action.
but its not a cut and dry FPA.
point is which is it more of.
me thinks you need to read a bit closer too 
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09-05-2002, 05:01 PM
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The Greatest One
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I'll let sombody else take over on debating with you, this post you just made makes absolutly no sense.
First of all, what did I miss (besides your point in this post)
and second, what do you mean by "which is it more of"? What it is, is an adventure... an Adventure game that just happens to be in first person, everybody but you agrees on this point. If it has a label, it's FPA, or just Adventure, period.
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09-05-2002, 05:04 PM
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The Nullified One
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Originally posted by TheGame

I'll let sombody else take over on debating with you, this post you just made makes absolutly no sense.
First of all, what did I miss (besides your point in this post)
and second, what do you mean by "which is it more of"? What it is, is an adventure... an Adventure game that just happens to be in first person, everybody but you agrees on this point. If it has a label, it's FPA, or just Adventure, period.
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 well its no fun then....
thats why i mainly ignored everyone else and didnt even read many of thier posts. i was trying to argue with YOU.
*sniff*
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