World Cup Fever? - Page 5

bobcat · 06-21-2002, 09:51 AM

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Originally posted by gekko
Brazil sucks, they won't win it (I hope).

But NOOOO!!!!! USA lost

But like Arena said before, if the US loses, it'll hurt some pride back home, if Germany loses, it would be devastating. But wouldn't it be even more devastating if we beat them next WC, on their turf?

Oh well, give the USA credit, they did better than anyone expected, and earned a lot of respect.

Next question, why do the 2 teams i cheer for always meet in single elimination? Err... Well, go Germany!!!!

Probably one of the biggest suprises were USA. They have improved so much, and I still think they played better than Germany

Oh well, Italy is out...............*cries again*

Angrist · 06-21-2002, 11:12 AM

It was weird, the Americans had the ball all the time and just couldn't penetrate the German's defense. Once the Germans got the ball they could shoot on the goal within 10 seconds! But the USA also had some nice chances.

And they made a goal, just one German stopped it with his hand!!! I'm sure of it, it was hard to see but from one angle it was obvious!!

Can South Korea beat Spain? I think so. Then they'll face Germany.

Jin · 06-21-2002, 11:28 AM

Oh well. The US team looked good out there even though they lost. Germany was the better team, but they sure look ugly out there. They aren't entertaining at all, imo. All they do is use their strength and height to kick or head butt the ball as far as they can. Whenever the US team was able to squeeze through the defense there would always be a German to launch it back to midfield with their incredible power.

Jonbo298 · 06-21-2002, 12:19 PM

Good ol' German defense. Its really improved over the past 60 years

ed328 · 06-22-2002, 05:23 AM

Well, congratulations to South Korea on the win and making history as well.

On another note, it would seem that the referees want South Korea to advance as that's the only thing I can think of to explain some of the calls by the assistant referees.

bobcat · 06-22-2002, 05:53 AM

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Originally posted by ed328
Well, congratulations to South Korea on the win and making history as well.

On another note, it would seem that the referees want South Korea to advance as that's the only thing I can think of to explain some of the calls by the assistant referees.

Well duh

Spain got the same treatment as Italy.

More disallowed goals. Congratulations to Korea, but this has to be the WORST world cup for refs.

BTW Spain SHOULD HAVE and DESERVED to win over Korea. They had a goal (I only watched the 2nd half).

Bloody unfair again. Backing my statement, it's rigged.

Mark my words, Korea will MOST LIKELY make it to the final!

Good on ITaly complaining about FIFA's performance. They have the right to after what's been done to them. And I hope Spain do the same!

Angrist · 06-22-2002, 08:33 AM

Yeah!! South Korea won!! Oh man this is good!!

Unfortunately I couldn't watch the second half of the game, but entire Holland is excited!!

Bond · 06-22-2002, 10:14 AM

I look at it this way: Soccer (football) is most defiantly not a major sport here. Golf, tennis, basketball, football, hockey, and Nascar are all bigger sports than soccer (football) here. Now being one of the top 8 soccer (football) teams is an amazing feet for any country. Some Country's whose main focus is soccer (football) live to get in the top 4 or 8. Frankly the American public could care less. But, if our main sport was soccer, we would get much farther.

bobcat · 06-22-2002, 11:02 AM

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Originally posted by Angrist
Yeah!! South Korea won!! Oh man this is good!!

Unfortunately I couldn't watch the second half of the game, but entire Holland is excited!!

It's not really that good. Considering that South Korea have made it through thanks to a MINIMUM of 3 disallowed goals in total that were goals.

Once against Portugal, Italy and Spain.

It makes me sick just thinking about it.

Revival · 06-22-2002, 11:03 AM

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Originally posted by Bond
I look at it this way: Soccer (football) is most defiantly not a major sport here. Golf, tennis, basketball, football, hockey, and Nascar are all bigger sports than soccer (football) here. Now being one of the top 8 soccer (football) teams is an amazing feet for any country. Some Country's whose main focus is soccer (football) live to get in the top 4 or 8. Frankly the American public could care less. But, if our main sport was soccer, we would get much farther.

Yeah.. that's the truth. I tend to think that football [football

] is our main sport.. oh vell

Angrist · 06-23-2002, 07:18 AM

Bobcat please stop the griming. You can't do anything about it, and it's not like they didn't deserve it. They were at least as good as Italy and Spain. In some ways...

When's the next match???

bobcat · 06-23-2002, 07:32 AM

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Originally posted by Angrist
Bobcat please stop the griming. You can't do anything about it, and it's not like they didn't deserve it. They were at least as good as Italy and Spain. In some ways...

When's the next match???

Excuse me but when you see the co host nation have AT LEAST 3 disallowed goals which were clear goals against 3 top ranked World Cup soccer teams (Portugal, Italy, Spain), it kinda gets me pissed off. So don't tell me what to do. This is a Sports forum and I'll do as I wish (without offending anyone of course)

***EDIT*** Sorry for the anger there Angrist, didn't mean to take it out on you

I understand I can't do anything about it. There is NO WAY in the world that Korea deserve to be where they are now. They play well, they have improved quite a bit, but it's scaringly unfair how they got there after the Spain, Italy and Portugal matches(especially Spain match!). If anybody watched those matches, they would know what I'm talking about. They've even brought this issue up in the papers/news. It's not something that will be just brushed along and forgotten about.

I'm glad Korea are the first Asian team in history to make it through to the semi's. It's good to see other countries getting better in the World Cup. But it's BS how they got there.

BTW I have nothing against Korea. I am hoping that they win the world cup now. They are the team I would like to win now (now that Senegal is out).

Put it this way. One disallowed goal in a game is fair enough. I would not be complaining. But there have been WAY too many for Korea.

So yeh

Angrist · 06-23-2002, 01:27 PM

BTW what dissalowed goal do you mean? The second one, where the ref had wistled and the Spanish players kept on playing?? I haven't seen that 'goal', but I just heard that both 'almost goals' shouldn't have been goals.

If you can understand my weird English...

bobcat · 06-23-2002, 06:02 PM

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Originally posted by Angrist
BTW what dissalowed goal do you mean? The second one, where the ref had wistled and the Spanish players kept on playing?? I haven't seen that 'goal', but I just heard that both 'almost goals' shouldn't have been goals.

If you can understand my weird English...

You haven't even watched the games

The 2nd one was a goal (first should have been).

The ball did not cross the Korea line. It was always in. They even showed closeups of it.

Watch the game (especially the one where the ball was ruled outside of Korea's Goal Line or something).

Shadow_Link · 06-23-2002, 10:43 PM

Well... Where to begin?

I tipped Italy to win the worldcup... Oh how wrong I was (I support them too). One team I wasn;t surprised by was Turkey. To me, they are THE MOST under rated team in the world. They play lovely, attacking, and might I say flowing football. Their defence isn;t even half bad either. Sas, Basturk and Tuguy are class acts, and I really do think they have a great chance against Brazil, it will be a great match.

Moving onto the Korea-Germany match. Somehow, this all too obvious feeling in my head is tellinng me that Korea will be the ones to progress into the finals. I wonder why

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I, like others, do believe there was a conspiracy. It wasn't just obvious in the games that Korea had participated in, but also games in which they didn't. Look at Italy's games in their group stage. How many decisions went against them? How many goals disallowed? I believe that 'most unknown' referees were instructed to see the 'best' teams out. But Italy did progress.

Now... onto other things. I well and truy believe that the winner of the Brazil-Turkey match will go onto to win the cup. The reason I predict Turkey to beat Brazil is because Brazil has a suspect defence, or rather, has NO defence, and will ultimately be split open by a much improved Turkey (a team which KEEPS ON improving). It will be a test of 'who can score more', and because Turkey has a much better defence that Brazil, and an attack which could match Brazil's on it's day, they should be able to go through.