To each their own, I guess. Personally, I thought DKR was thematically terrifying and the first "important" comic book movie, as it was a metaphor for very real and modern concerns. Also, the way it was filmed was unique for a comic book movie to that point. It was filmed like a crime thriller, with realistic settings (Chicago). This made for a far more engaging story, IMO, because it felt real and not like a fantasy.
Juxtapose that with the original movie that felt like pure fantasy. I still think the original is a good movie, but it's striking how different two versions of the same universe can be, and how both versions can be extremely successful.
This. The themes it delved into and the gritty real feel of TDK are what set it apart for me. I love it. I must have seen it five times now, which is rare for me... except for mediocre movies that come on TV free over and over. Why do those snare me so often? Something about the cost.
I like the Voice... almost always. One exception is the one near the end of TDK with the Joker. One sentence, three long breaths. Then again Batman probably was out of breath.
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Saw the movie at midnight on Fri after sitting through the other two...
And still wrapping my head around it. I'm not sure it's my favorite in the series, but its a damn fine movie and a great capper to what is easily my favorite cinema trilogy
Very good movie, but it misses the mark set by The Dark Knight, mainly because some of the set pieces are grand to the point of being unrealistic. IMO, what set TDK apart from other comic movies was the gritty realism, and while I understand the more fantastic parts were meant to be symbolic, it still broke the fourth wall a bit too much for me.
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1) Tom Hardy as Bane was great. Brutal, cerebral, and single minded. Perfect translation from the books.
2) Christian Bale missed the mark. His character should have been much more angry, and not just calmly say "I'm angry" while doing sit ups. This batman should have been consumed with rage, and empty without violence, and a slave to his ego. The content was there, but the acting was not. This batman was less emotive than the one in TDK.
3) This was the most political, and arguably conservative, of the films. TDK had themes about terrorism, but the TDKR was centered on revolution, specifically, communist revolution (or a fake commie revolution, and which one hasn't betrayed the espoused values). You had the confiscation of property, and even commntary on how communal property that belongs to everyone really belongs to no one.
Very good movie, but it misses the mark set by The Dark Knight, mainly because some of the set pieces are grand to the point of being unrealistic. IMO, what set TDK apart from other comic movies was the gritty realism, and while I understand the more fantastic parts were meant to be symbolic, it still broke the fourth wall a bit too much for me.
Specifics:
1) Tom Hardy as Bane was great. Brutal, cerebral, and single minded. Perfect translation from the books.
2) Christian Bale missed the mark. His character should have been much more angry, and not just calmly say "I'm angry" while doing sit ups. This batman should have been consumed with rage, and empty without violence, and a slave to his ego. The content was there, but the acting was not. This batman was less emotive than the one in TDK.
3) This was the most political, and arguably conservative, of the films. TDK had themes about terrorism, but the TDKR was centered on revolution, specifically, communist revolution (or a fake commie revolution, and which one hasn't betrayed the espoused values). You had the confiscation of property, and even commntary on how communal property that belongs to everyone really belongs to no one.
I thought this movie was anti-conservative because Bane is a homophone for Bain Capital, the financial company Mitt Romney founded. /Limbaugh
I agree with you though - it was an awesome, awesome action movie, but the weakest, and probably least rewatchable, of the three.
The first two are 10/10's in my book. This one is a solid 8.
I did love it though. Hardy was great as Bane, who was the perfect villain to follow the Joker. Very different character - extremely focused - a leader. But he also had the jovial criminal angle to him which made him very likable.
JGL Nightwing movie, can we has?
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Dear God. That opinion is both ignorant and stupid. Ignorant because the Bane character far predates the proposed metaphor, and stupid because the two things have nothing in common.
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Dear God. That opinion is both ignorant and stupid. Ignorant because the Bane character far predates the proposed metaphor, and stupid because the two things have nothing in common.
They sound the same
And Bane is a terrorist
So when people.. apparently see TDKR, they will hear Bane and immediately think of Mitt Romney.
I just saw this movie, so please pardon the late comments.
Let's not take a comment from Rush Limbaugh seriously. He is a buffoon.
As far as where the trilogy sides on debates over terrorism, occupy wall street, etc. I think it's actually quite an evenhanded approach. And due to that evenhandedness, it's possible for either side to see what it wants. Nolan's creation is amorphous, if you will. But that's just my best guess.
Example: Lucius Fox is reluctant to monitor the cellphone sonar system Wayne concocted (I believe he calls it "too much power for one man") in the Dark Knight Returns. But Fox uses it, and via its capabilities, Batman is able to apprehend the Joker. Of course, Wayne triggered the system with a self-destruct mechanism once Fox entered his name. Did Fox or Wayne enjoy or revel in the system? I don't think so, but they saw it as a necessary evil in a time of crisis. Do the ends justify the means? It seems as though Nolan points to yes, but I think it's open for debate ... some of those "necessary evil" choices come back to haunt the characters in Rises.
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