Feel the atmoshpere in Metroid Prime: new pics.

[TheGame]

Originally posted by Null
most people would wait to actually PLAY the game before recommending one, or saying one wins or what not.

metroid could very well win a FPS comparason. or maybe it wouldnt. thing is you should wait to PLAY IT first.

i say its rather stupid to say ones a winner when the 2nd isnt even done yet.

Listen to Shadow Link, the man knows what he is talking about. Metroid vs Halo would not be fair if they bothwere compared within the FPS Genre.

Where's Metroid's selection of Weapons? Where's Metroid's Co-Op or Multi-player modes? Things like this are basic needs for a FPS. Halo has them, Metroid doesn't. So it is more than safe to say Metroid would lose a comparision in the FPS genre.

Hate to bring up old fights, but Metroid isn't a FPS, period.

[Null]

Originally posted by TheGame
Listen to Shadow Link, the man knows what he is talking about. Metroid vs Halo would not be fair if they bothwere compared within the FPS Genre.

Where's Metroid's selection of Weapons? Where's Metroid's Co-Op or Multi-player modes? Things like this are basic needs for a FPS. Halo has them, Metroid doesn't. So it is more than safe to say Metroid would lose a comparision in the FPS genre.

Hate to bring up old fights, but Metroid isn't a FPS, period.

coop and multiplayer would go under the multiplayer comparison. not the FPS comparason.

and hate to bring up old fights but if you cant see Metroid is a FPS your blind.

is it only an fps? no. its also an Adventure, its also an Action.

But it has FPS in it. you can compare that to halo ONCE ITS OUT.

everything in life gets compared. you wouldnt know what type of genre something was in if you didnt compare it to others.

you wouldnt know anything what you like or dont like if you didnt compare stuff. You say metroid isnt fps fine. but how did you come to that conclusion? you compared it to existing FPS and claim its differnt from them.

[TheGame]

Originally posted by Null
coop and multiplayer would go under the multiplayer comparison. not the FPS comparason.

No, it's a leathal feature for a FPS, so it is an FPS comparision. Just like Franchise mode would be a simulation sports game comparision. Games lacking it suffer a lot in scores.

and hate to bring up old fights but if you cant see Metroid is a FPS your blind.

If I were blind I wouldn't see that Metroid is in First person. But it isn't a FPS, it has little/no elements that can make it a FPS, except the fact it is in 1st person most of the game.

you wouldnt know anything what you like or dont like if you didnt compare stuff. You say metroid isnt fps fine. but how did you come to that conclusion? you compared it to existing FPS and claim its differnt from them.

(you are talking about totally different comparisions, I'm talking about defining which game is better, you are talking about general comparisions... look at my older posts, I said anything can be compared)

I came to the conclusion by knowing the definition of a FPS and a Adventure game. I did no comparing to come to my conclusion about the game. The only comparisions made were to make my arguement stronger to you. While you stuck to the "It's in First person, you shoot, it's a FPS" You could say the same for Zelda, or any game that has and first person moments. The whole game of Metroid isn't in First person, at times, the camera drops behind and it becomes 3rd person.

It's not a FPS, FPA, or just plain Adventure is what this should be classified as.

[Null]

you woudlnt know the difintions without comparing, there would be no difinitions without compareing. everygame would be the same catagory.


and cant really say anything bout your zelda argument, my 3 year old cousin could make a better one, thats just plan stupid. Link has a sword. not a gun


and you just admited it has fps elimints in it. therfor it has FPS in it. (more then you say but you still say.)

[Shadow_Link]

Originally posted by Null
and you just admited it has fps elimints in it. therfor it has FPS in it. (more then you say but you still say.)

Wow... In Madden, you can run, while you can do the same in Halo, therefore Halo must be a sports simulation.

coop and multiplayer would go under the multiplayer comparison. not the FPS comparason.

Hate to break it to you, but multiplayer isn't a genre... When you 'compare' both Metroid and Halo as FPS's, you will ultimately compare each of the elements inside each game. Lets see, Metroid has compulsory auto-aim, Halo doesn't, Halo has a multiplayer, Metroid doesn't.

Now again, if someone looking into buying a game looks at the FPS genre, and gets the impression that Metroid is an FPS game, what will he think when it is compared to a pure FPS?

'Let's see, this game is an FPS, yet it has NO multiplayer, there's alot of jumping, compulsory auto-aim, aw man, this game is crap!'

If Metroid were going to be an FPS, it would suck wouldn't it?

Now if Metroid were to be placed under a whole different genre, people won't be concentrating on whether it has auto-aim or not, or if it has multiplayer deathmatches, and therefore could be appreciated as being a very good game.

[TheGame]

Originally posted by Null
you woudlnt know the difintions without comparing, there would be no difinitions without compareing. everygame would be the same catagory.

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Soo... a game where two guys are fighting isn't a fighting game when it isn't being compared? A game that features sports gameplay isn't a sports when it isn't being compared? I don't understand this point of yours.

and cant really say anything bout your zelda argument, my 3 year old cousin could make a better one, thats just plan stupid. Link has a sword. not a gun

Link has a Bow and Arrow, and a sling shot (and a Boomerang), both are shot in first person. Hell, he has a bigger selection of shootable weapond than Samus, and real ammo. Does that make the whole game a FPS?

The FP in FPS is just the point of view. Just becqause a game is in first person it doesn't mean it's a FPS. Look at Phantasy Star for SMS, just because that's in first person it's a FPS?

and you just admited it has fps elimints in it. therfor it has FPS in it. (more then you say but you still say.)

Zelda has FPS in it, does that make it a FPS?

[Null]

yes it has a fps element in it. you tryin to say the idea of that bow and arrow did not derive from a FPS?


and its still not quite sinking into you. But its ok. im sure one of these days when ya get older your understand more.

and i dont know what the hell your talkin bout in the first park. you sound a bit drink.

What im saying is EVERYTHING is compared. whether you know it or not. you may think your not comparing stuff but you are. How does Madden fit into the sprots catagory? For any answer your about to give me, its because you JUST comared the game to the definition of a sports games and are about to share your finding.

Why is metroid not a FPS? cuz well mario isnt or billy bobs water park adventure isnt

no no, talking about metroid not other games oh, cuz it doesnt have this and this and this like halo does, it has these adventure elements like blah blah blah.

you just compared Metroid to Halo. you just compared Metroid to a FPS Definition. You Just compared Metroid to a Adventure definition.

Im saying everything is always compared. you cant say something cant be compared cuz of this or that. because by saying that you already compared them.

[TheGame]

How retarded can you get? This is the most mindless debate I've ever had with anybody.

Originally posted by Null


yes it has a fps element in it. you tryin to say the idea of that bow and arrow did not derive from a FPS?

I was the one that said Zelda has FPS elements to begin with. You were the one with the dumb ass "Link uses a sword, not a gun, my 3 year old cousin told me so" arguement. So don't even start to turn it against me.

and its still not quite sinking into you. But its ok. im sure one of these days when ya get older your understand more.

and i dont know what the hell your talkin bout in the first park. you sound a bit drink.

first park, a bit drink??? Ummm....

What im saying is EVERYTHING is compared. whether you know it or not. you may think your not comparing stuff but you are. How does Madden fit into the sprots catagory? For any answer your about to give me, its because you JUST comared the game to the definition of a sports games and are about to share your finding.

No, I know Madden fits in to the sports category because Football is a sport. Before Video games were thought of, Football was still a sport. That's why it falls into the sports game category.

Why is metroid not a FPS? cuz well mario isnt or billy bobs water park adventure isnt

You are the only person here who believes it's a FPS. Nobody agrees with you. Nuff said.

no no, talking about metroid not other games oh, cuz it doesnt have this and this and this like halo does, it has these adventure elements like blah blah blah.

You are the only person here who believes it's a FPS. Nobody agrees with you. Nuff said.

you just compared Metroid to Halo. you just compared Metroid to a FPS Definition. You Just compared Metroid to a Adventure definition.

How many times do I have to say it? Anything can be compared. Obviously you are too blinded with your need to "win" this To realize I have said it more than enough times in this topic.

Im saying everything is always compared. you cant say something cant be compared cuz of this or that. because by saying that you already compared them.

I think you are "drink" again

maybe you should read an old post of mine sonny...

What I was trying to say (which your dumb ass missed) is that anything can be compared... but... There is a point where comparisons become pointless due to too many differences.

The best comparisons are games that try to create the same image:

NFL 2k vs Madden
NBA 2k vs NBA Live
WWF No Mercy vs WWF WMx8
Mario 64 vs Mario Sunshine

The next Best are games that aren't trying to create the same image, but games that are in the same genre and have similar gameplay mechanics, game settings, or Level design.

Then there are the pointless comparisons. Yes, anything can be compared, But some are just plain stupid. Games that have nothing to do with each other. Metriod and Halo fall under this category. The lack of similarities isn't the only thing that makes it unfair. Just think about it, comparing a game that isn't out to (arguably) the best home console FPS is in no way fair.

Just like the retards that used to say Mafia is a GTA killer... Just because Mafia doesn't live up to GTA it now can be classified as crap. If it wasn't compared to GTA 3 it wouldn't be crap, it would be it's own game. Let Metroid be it's own game.

What's so stimulating abut comparing Apples to Oranges??? The way I see it, comparing things that have bigger similarities than it's label. Yes, they are both "games" just like Apples and oranges are both "fruits". It's a lot easier to compare the big orange with the brown spots to the small clean one then it will ever be to compare it to an Apple.

Use this example on games, Tetris vs Madden 2003... both games, how could a person write a comprehensive comparison???

"Well, Madden has a franchise mode and Tetris doesn't, Madden is better"

wtf?

It simply makes no sense. To me, if comparisons are this retarded, I like to just say that the can't be compared. Halo and Metriod can't be compared.

Have you even considered the fact that metroid isn't even out yet? They still can be compared? (keep in mind what I said was something that can't be compared) A couple demo's to a full blown HIT game? If you believe these can be compared, I will quit debating now, because this is simple disagreement, facts have nothing to do with it.

*sigh*

I don't know what kind of comparisions you are talking about, or what you are trying to prove (please answer this in your next post)

by the way... just because you love hearing me repeat myself.

You are the only person here who believes it's a FPS. Nobody agrees with you. Nuff said.

[Angrist]

Go on like this and my thread will be the longest GCN thread ever!

[Xantar]

I don't know...I'm pretty sure TheGame and I have had longer debates about the GameCube in the past. After all, Null doesn't go on and on nearly as much as I do.

I suppose I could make this the longest GCN thread ever by jumping in, but I unfortunately agree with TheGame. So the best I could do is more or less repeat what he says and waste everyone's time. Even I have better things to do.

[Shadow_Link]

Originally posted by Xantar
Even I have better things to do.

*Cough*noyoudon't*cough* ...

[Null]

Originally posted by Xantar
After all, Null doesn't go on and on nearly as much as I do.

someone deleted my last couple posts. so i just gave up. not going to keep retyping them.