It's official, Rare is now a Micorsoft First Party developer - Page 6

Crono · 09-18-2002, 07:31 PM

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Originally posted by TheGame
lmfao

Are you serious? A fanboy wouldn't give the opposition that much respect. I would expect the opposite responce... like "they are crap anyway" or "it doesn't even matter"

Like when Sony boys heard that Square is making games for GCN... they made ever excuse to make it sound like it isn't that great.

The whole basis of my posts have been "it doesnt matter", that is why I said it wouldnt affect Nintendo much. I dont even know why I got into that other crap, I just should have said "like a give a rat's @$$" or something like that. I really dont care if Rare is with MS now, they deserve it, at least they dont have to support a consoles entire life like they had to do with N64. I am buying an Xbox in May anyway, and not because Rare is with MS now.

And really I'm not a Sony fanboy either, I was just kidding around, I'm pretty much an all-round gamer, I'll play anything that I like.

DarkMaster · 09-18-2002, 07:42 PM

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Originally posted by DeathsHand
Not to mention it came out when N64 was like... dead...

And yeah it sold like crap, but it got really good reviews, and I heard many people who liked it...

I bet Crono and his lil' friend DarkMaster don't like Conker just cuz it sold bad... *realizes they hate GTA3 too, which sold good*... Ok nevermind, but you're both idiots....

J/K

wut are you talking about? i dont like conker because i played it and i dont like it!! and i dont hate gta either, i never said i hated it. you think me a crono are siding up to make rare sound bad? i dont like rare because i dont enjoy most of their games, is that too hard to understand? i never really cared about rare, and i'm not a god damn fanboy either!!! you seem to get the wrong ideas when i say something, i dont like some games because i dont like some games!! simple as that. it has nothing to do with sales or wut console their on or wut company develops them. this rare crap is really starting to piss me off. i know you were just kidding DH, but that really pissed me off. you know i wish i never started this stupid thread, as always it turns into nothing but a senseless argument about nothing.

DeathsHand · 09-18-2002, 07:47 PM

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Originally posted by DarkMaster
i know you were just kidding DH, but that really pissed me off

Then it shouldn't have pissed you off, cuz I didn't even mean it...

Now calm down and have a burger...

DarkMaster · 09-18-2002, 07:51 PM

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Originally posted by DeathsHand
Then it shouldn't have pissed you off, cuz I didn't even mean it...

Now calm down and have a burger...

i'm not really mad, just kinda mad at wut you said (even though you were just kidding, its still the principle!) either way, a burger would be nice, thanks!

Angrist · 09-19-2002, 04:11 AM

This is the funniest thread at the moment.

It's great seeing everybody turn against Rare. Justin is right.
And I admit, I will miss Rare. But I realise now that Rare had some problems the last years. If they didn't, they would have had released quite a few games by now. I don't know what's going on there, but apperantly Nintendo did, and decided they weren't profitable anymore.
Too bad we'll never see any Rare games on the GC anymore. But hopefully some developer will make Killer Instinct 3 (it's not Soul Calibur, it's different, more variation in characters I think) and Perfect Dark 0/2. I never cared about Banjo-Kazooie.

Just a thought: what will happen if Rare, Microsoft and Nintendo announce that nothing of it all was true?? Would we all be happy to have Rare and start telling how good they are??

TheGame · 09-19-2002, 12:13 PM

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Originally posted by Angrist
This is the funniest thread at the moment. It's great seeing everybody turn against Rare. Justin is right.
And I admit, I will miss Rare. But I realise now that Rare had some problems the last years. If they didn't, they would have had released quite a few games by now. I don't know what's going on there, but apperantly Nintendo did, and decided they weren't profitable anymore.

I think the reason there hasn't been much content from Rare on the GCN is because Nintendo may have wanted to sell them prior to GCN's release. Which meant any other GCN games from Rare had to be put on hold except the game Nintendo owned the licences to. -EDIT- or the ones sheduled for a launch release but delayed 20 times (Star Fox)

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Just a thought: what will happen if Rare, Microsoft and Nintendo announce that nothing of it all was true?? Would we all be happy to have Rare and start telling how good they are??

lol, it wouldn't immediatly happen, but it would slowly work into it.

quiet mike · 09-19-2002, 01:41 PM

It's OK to like a company or not, but it's wrong to discredit for what it has done. Things are going to change a lot for Rare right now and not one of us can tell if it's for the better or worse (I hope for the sake of gaming that's for better).

Let's look at some of Rare's acomplishments; the things that made it where it is and made us fight about it.

1. Rare made the first game ever to have a 3d perspective on a 2d game platform (some old computers) by using perspective used in paintings to fake 3D in their backgrounds, so you could see a room diagonally not only side scrooling. Not 3D but the first look of it.

2. Rare invented the combo system in fighting games with their first Killer Instinct (which is the best of the series by the way)

3. Rare was the one to breack the SNES graphics capabilities and bring us DK, DK2, DK3, which were probably the best looking games on SNES.

4. Rare was the first company that made a FPS that worked on a console (GoldenEye), and reinvented multiplayer action in FPS with PD

All of this was made because of who Rare was. But Rare won't be that anymore. No more imput from Nintendo's best will not hurt them soo much since they inovated all of the things above without their help. But designers leaving prior and after the deal to independent firms, managment changes because of the buy, and other things that come unespected because of these will make a big impact on what Rare will become.

As a Nintendo fan, I don't like to see Rare gone.
As a general gamer I see why Nintendo let them go, because all this talent only showed once a year, and the profits aren't what they expected.
As a game lover I hope to see Rare rise out of this even better, even though that might take quite some time. If not, then at least I want to see the people that were Rare go on and do the same thing somwhere else, giving us better games to enjoy.

Professor S · 09-19-2002, 03:01 PM

Wasn't it Argonauts that made Star Fox for the SNES?

Angrist · 09-20-2002, 05:10 AM

I remember another company sent Nintendo that polygonal demo and then developed Star Fox... I think they've also made some SF-like games, without the SF lisence...

Could be Argonauts... dunno

quiet mike · 09-20-2002, 02:05 PM

You guys are right, I guess I was remembering something wrong. Anyways, here is the article with all the things Rare has done right.
http://cube.ign.com/articles/091/091980p1.html

Angrist · 09-20-2002, 04:33 PM

Now it's official...

Trowser · 09-25-2002, 04:01 PM

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Originally posted by DeathsHand
I've heard a number of people say that Conker was a very good game...

and that Jet Force Gemini is quite underrated... They made that, right?

I dunno...

.

JFG sucked ass.I traded one of my best games(which i have not gotten back)to get Jet Force Gemini.That game was whack and very disappointing.

Trowser · 09-25-2002, 04:04 PM

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Originally posted by The Strangler
Wow, I won't name names, but I think a LOT of people have put their bitter grumpypants on over this whole ordeal.

Rare on Nintendo: "GREATEST... DEVELOPER... EVER... All other consoles must bow DOWN to Nintendo for having the mighty Rare... MWAAAA HHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAHAAAA!!!!"

Rare on the XBox: "Rare SUXXORS11!!1!1!! They never release games on time, they haven't made any good games since Goldeneye (complete boldfaced LIE) and they are completely WORTHLESS!!!! ARRRRGGGHH!!!!"

Well,i was never the first one.I always said Rare was overrated.And they are.

Professor S · 09-25-2002, 04:06 PM

Yes, they consistently make games that score over 9.0 and their games haved moved more consoles than any other developer save Nintendo and maybe Sega.

I agree, completely overrated

BlueFire · 09-25-2002, 04:10 PM

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Originally posted by The Strangler
Wow, I won't name names, but I think a LOT of people have put their bitter grumpypants on over this whole ordeal.

Rare on Nintendo: "GREATEST... DEVELOPER... EVER... All other consoles must bow DOWN to Nintendo for having the mighty Rare... MWAAAA HHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAHAAAA!!!!"

Rare on the XBox: "Rare SUXXORS11!!1!1!! They never release games on time, they haven't made any good games since Goldeneye (complete boldfaced LIE) and they are completely WORTHLESS!!!! ARRRRGGGHH!!!!"

For one thing, you sure are using 'grumpy pants' or 'sour banana or whatever fruit' a lot, huh?

And another thing...

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Rare on Nintendo: "GREATEST... DEVELOPER... EVER... All other consoles must bow DOWN to Nintendo for having the mighty Rare... MWAAAA HHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAHAAAA!!!!"

Rare on the XBox: "Rare SUXXORS11!!1!1!! They never release games on time, they haven't made any good games since Goldeneye (complete boldfaced LIE) and they are completely WORTHLESS!!!! ARRRRGGGHH!!!!"

I don't get it. Has this become a standard for Nintendo fans now? Why is it that everyone generalizes Nintendo fans like that?

Sure, there have been idiots to pop in and say Rare is on Nintendo and not XBox... or whatever... But why is it that nintendo fans are generalized like that? I have yet to see that stuff here.

Sure, some people are in denial about this... but jeez..

Ok... no one gets me.

*runs away*