Working Out - Page 6

DeathsHand · 02-05-2003, 12:23 AM

pushups: 3 and then I collapse and have to be taken to the hospital.

TheGame · 02-05-2003, 11:45 AM

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Originally posted by DeathsHand
pushups: 3 and then I collapse and have to be taken to the hospital.

hey, it's a start... I think.

TheGame · 02-05-2003, 12:14 PM

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Originally posted by Shiz
thats not good. first off, EACH muscle group needs 48-72 hours to recover, and ur certainly not giving it that. plus you are not working every part of ur body, im sure ur missing some things.

Yep, but you don't have to give it that much rest.... it's just a smarter thing to do if you want to see results.

Stu, how long have you been on that workout?

If more than 2 weeks, I say stop for 3 days then come back to lifting again, you will feel (and be) MUCH stronger.

The scientific reason is... well, when you lift you are only damageing your muscles. Your muscles get little tears in them every time you lift. The thing is, given time, your body heals the tears and it makes your muscle bigger and stronger!

So, if you go to the gym every day like you are doing, your muscles are not having time to recover from the damage! That means you aren't getting stonger, you are just slowly working yourself towards a HUGE cramp or injury.

Given time to heal, the next time you lift you will reem the results of the healed tears and be able to lift things you were struggleing with a little easier.

Now, those tears can turn into rips, depending on how you work.

If you go to the gym and do 10-12 reps per set you are not going to get stronger as fast as say, 5 reps per set.

Doing 10 reps will give you a lot of tears in your muscles, and bigger ones. This will cause your body to take longer to recover from lifting then doing 5 reps. In five reps you get smaller tears, which are much faster to recover.

Doing five reps will make your weight training speed go much faster. You recover faster, and get stronger much faster. While the good part of doing 10 is that you get more endurance and you get much more ripped... but you just don't get as strong as fast.

When I was coming up I stopped right between the two doing 7-8 reps. I'd do 7 at times where I felt getting stronger was a little more important, and 8 at times when I felt gaining endurance is a little more important.

Another wise tip is... think about every little weight excercize you do. Which ones do you need to get stronger in, and which do you need to gain endurance in. Then, in general, concerning your upper and lower body, what do you need to get strong at, and what do you need endurance at.

I mean, generally, for your position in football, what do you need most of all? (Upperbody and lower body)

Recievers and DBs would most benifit from endurance all-around, while Linemen would benifit most from strength all-around. Then QB's need strength up high, and endurance down low. You just have to look at what you are doing, and relate it to what you are doing in the gym.

Perfect Stu · 02-05-2003, 12:32 PM

thanks Justin, I appreciate the tips.

And guys, I know exactly what I'm doing. And I guess I was a little misleading. When I say every day, that doesn't mean NO rests. It means I work out daily, and after about 5-7 days I take a rest from weights (1 or 2 days). I've been using this method for 13 days and I'm already seeing results.

J, I'm working primarily right now with 15 reps. Is that too much? If 10 reps is better, that's cool...I'll switch to that. I've noticed that with the 15 reps, I've bulked. I haven't measured my chest, but it's huge...like Donkey Kong

It looks like I'm either going to be D-Line or TE this year...strength can come as a slightly higher priority than endurance.

As for Mush's question...How many reps/sets do you curl with the 10 lbs?

If you can curl 30 or more, try a 15/20lb weight and do 10 reps.

TheGame · 02-05-2003, 12:52 PM

with Higher reps you will notice physical changes faster... but as far as being able to push more weight, won't happen. You might need to knock it way down to 7 Reps if you are more concerned with raw strength... if you wanna look better with your shirt off keep doin what you are doin

Perfect Stu · 02-05-2003, 01:49 PM

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Originally posted by TheGame
with Higher reps you will notice physical changes faster... but as far as being able to push more weight, won't happen. You might need to knock it way down to 7 Reps if you are more concerned with raw strength... if you wanna look better with your shirt off keep doin what you are doin

Bah, I already look alright...I don't care about appearance much.

I think I'll cut it down to 10 reps

Perfect Stu · 02-05-2003, 01:51 PM

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Originally posted by TheGame
hey, it's a start... I think.

Shiz · 02-05-2003, 04:15 PM

what are you talkin about?for toning its 10-12 reps

for strength its only like 3 -5

and for mass its 6-8

and what i mean by that is you should fail somwhere in between 6-8

and if your going by routine its like every 3-4 months you take a week break.

pshh i can only do like 35-40 push ups, chest is real weak

Shiz · 02-05-2003, 04:16 PM

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The scientific reason is... well, when you lift you are only damageing your muscles. Your muscles get little tears in them every time you lift. The thing is, given time, your body heals the tears and it makes your muscle bigger and stronger!

exactly. thats the reason for 48-72 hours in between

and thats at least. most body builders dont do a muscle group more than once or twice a week

Perfect Stu · 02-05-2003, 04:31 PM

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Originally posted by Shiz
what are you talkin about?for toning its 10-12 reps

for strength its only like 3 -5

and for mass its 6-8

and what i mean by that is you should fail somwhere in between 6-8

and if your going by routine its like every 3-4 months you take a week break.

pshh i can only do like 35-40 push ups, chest is real weak

Ok...

I'm big right now. I don't need anymore size...I'm looking to take what I have now, and make it stronger...more defined.

Shiz · 02-05-2003, 05:14 PM

ok, do 10-12 reps, and do cardio 2-3 times a week 20-30 mins so you could lose body fat

that way u will see ur muscle ALOT better, and u'll look ripped & huge, not just huge

Joeiss · 02-05-2003, 06:06 PM

Thanks for the tips, BJW. I have been going to the gym everyday... since monday...

I am feeling great, except I put way too much weight on my dumbbell shrugs yesterday, and now my traps are killing me... HUGELY!!! lol.

I just did a big leg workout today.... I don't know what I want to do for next week... Should I do a 7 day routine where i work out 5 days, and rest 2? or should I do a 4 day routine where I work out 3 days and rest 1? Decisions decisions.

Oh, and my new goal is to fit into my old nWo tshirt... Right now, my gut in like hanging out of it kinda... HAHHA>.... But I want to look cool in it... lol.

Mushlafa · 02-05-2003, 06:29 PM

ok... this sucks.. i seem to be doin everything wrong.. heh... I do about 15 reps per set.. which is bad? I run about 15 min before i work out.. and i do more than 30 reps when lifting a 10 pound weight.....

I need some guidance.... most of what i got on my arm is muscle.... but... its not that big... like i want it to be much bigger... right now... i dunno.. i jus kinda look small...

heh i even got a pic here... someone made me take it.. they were like.. cmon emil... jus take one pic

i was like whatever...

so.. yeah.. im gonna post it and you tell me what to do with it guys... i wanna get it much bigger but i want it to be defined too..

Its really kinda pathetic if you ask me.. but my friends are like :eek: and im like.. its really nothin..

Joeiss · 02-05-2003, 07:24 PM

That looks like the classic skinny man bicep muscle. Powerless again big men like myself and Stu!! GRrrrrrrrrr.....

LOL... Umm, what are you lifting now for biceps? Only 10 pounds? That will only do some stuff... If you are really weak. Try doing 15 pound dumbbells, and if you can do three sets of 11, and you get tired at the end, then you should stick to this until you don't get tired. Then go up to 20. And so on, and so on.

I like to add 2.5 pounds each workout (well, for my chest at least). And it seems to have worked well (that is, last time I worked out for like 2 weeks straight).

Mushlafa · 02-05-2003, 07:35 PM

actually... im not that skiny.. im 135 pounds and not that tall... and i do 15-20 reps wit 20 pounds per hand ... 3 or 4 sets.. wit a bout a min min break in between... skinny mans bicep that is not

I did uhh.. 25 pounds per hand last time... n i was fine... 15 reps per set again.. which is too much... im gonna up my weight a lot today and do much less reps... plus that pic was taken a few months ago..