Last movies you saw

[Angrist]

Batman is trying too hard to be a serious movie. If you want to make a realistic movie about super heroes, you are bound to run into trouble.

Now The Avengers went the other route and it works so much better. And when there's something unrealistic or unlogical, you just accept it because it's a movie about comic book characters.

[BreakABone]

Originally Posted by Angrist

Batman is trying too hard to be a serious movie. If you want to make a realistic movie about super heroes, you are bound to run into trouble.

Now The Avengers went the other route and it works so much better. And when there's something unrealistic or unlogical, you just accept it because it's a movie about comic book characters.

I agree with your overall point, but I think there's a difference between grounded and realistic.

This franchise is grounded. Not necessarily realistic. You are still dealing with a clan of trained ninjas, a guy in clown make-up, a hero who dresses up as a bat, a dude who created fear gas and all that other stuff. Just set in a much more conventional world.

[Teuthida]

I have no problem with all those things you mentioned. They're pretty toned down anyway to make them "realistic." Except it doesn't do the movies any favors by toning down the comic book elements while having unrealistic acting and grand nonsensical villainous plots. It's a weird halfway mess.

[Seth]

[KillerGremlin]

I thought TDKR was as much of a Nolan film as it was a Batman film.

The fact is...we've had campy and fun Batman. Batman and Batman Returns are good films...Batman Forever and Batman & Robin are not good films.

So you take the good with the bad....these new films are incredibly well done, in my opinion. And some of it is a bit over-the-top, and some of it is a bit pandering...and it's not all canon. But it works for the most part.

I thought the "fire batman symbol on the bridge" was very comic-book-esque, and that worked for me.

The cops being underground for 3 months didn't bother me. Also very comic-y, imo.

Bane's speech at the stadium was a bit over-the-top, for me. His voice was fucking perfect though. I thought Bane's personality was great.

The ending wasn't as good as the rest of the film...and fell way short of The Dark Knight...but A LOT OF MOVIES fall apart in the end. I think you could argue that Bane was sort of screwed over. I thought it was a Nolan ending, and not a "Batman" ending.

I can overlook the hokey social commentary on terrorism and conservatism and all that stuff, because who gives a shit. I go into these movies with a comic geek boner, and tend to ignore most of the social commentary unless it's relevant to beliefs I already have. These ARE violent movies, and I probably wouldn't take young kids to them.

I think there are clear tradeoffs with the Nolan franchise. On one hand, the movie isn't quite the comic experience as say: The Amazing Spider-Man, The Avengers, Hellboy, Sin City, or even Iron Man.

On the other hand...the Nolan franchise does some stuff that blows those other movies away.

This summer was good for comics. The Amazing Spider-Man had the best of both worlds....The Avengers was all comic book, and Batman was more of a Nolan movie than a comic. Between these 3 films, I think anyone can find something to like. Unless you are a dick.

[Angrist]

The funny thing is, I never read comics (and tbh I think most of them are more silly than cool), but I loved The Avengers best.

[Teuthida]

[Teuthida]

Real Steel
Quite fun.

The Pirates! In an Adventure with Scientists!
Loved this movie. Non-stop gags. Near impossible to catch them all in one viewing. Apparently the American version (Band of Misfits) changed some of the raunchier jokes and dubbed over a few of the characters with other actors. Weird how this PG movie can offend so many. They even had to change the leper boat to the plague boat (in both versions) because some leper group complained.

[Teuthida]

[BreakABone]

I'm watching these, and started with the Dark Knight Rises one.

And one of these nitpicks (And that's what it is) is the most annoying one I saw bought up. No one thought anything of Batman and Bruce Wayne dying on the same day.. The movie shows that dozens of people died on the same day as well during the big climactic fight including that cop.. so it's not like it was Bruce and Batman were the only people who died. So why would anyone suspect that Bruce was Bat.. hell.. Miranda died.. and the other goon died... rich people were keeling over in Gotham.

Amazing Spiderman.. Lindsay Lohan if she had better parents.. got me good haha

[Vampyr]

I love honest trailers.

I saw Skyfall over the weekend. It was good - one of the prettiest movies I've seen in a long time. The use of lighting, colors, and shadows was incredible and worth the ticket price alone.

There's just something about Bond movies, though, that I never enjoy them as much as I think I will. I'm not sure what it is - the basic premise of Bond is pretty straightforward and awesome sounding: suave secret agent doing action movie things.

But in practice I find I'm never quite able to relate to him. He's ruthless and brutal almost to the point of not being a hero anymore, and I find the way women fall all over him to be unrealistic to the point it's just funny.

For example, in Skyfall, when he approaches the women on the boat in the shower, and she's just like 'oh hai, sexy times nao'. First of all, it seems super risky to just get naked on a boat with enemies about. Second of all, this lady was sold into the sex trade. I doubt in reality she would be that open to having sex with a stranger.

[KillerGremlin]

I can't think of a franchise I like more than James Bond...and all the spoofs. Austin Powers, Archer, Chuck (soooo many references crammed into Chuck), The Pink Panther, Naked Gun, Hank Scorpio and the Simpsons, No One Lives Forever (video game), Help!....

It's probably my favorite genre, just by default. Skyfall felt more like reboot/homage rather than a straight up Bond movie...and the movie's biggest fault is it sort of felt exactly like The Dark Knight during that one scene in the middle. The ending scene was great, however, and was more of a Western-style standoff than anything (Home Alone didn't do it first, people).

But in practice I find I'm never quite able to relate to him. He's ruthless and brutal almost to the point of not being a hero anymore, and I find the way women fall all over him to be unrealistic to the point it's just funny.

It's parodied well by Austin Powers, I think.

He's certainly an icon of an older time...I thought Skyfall did good in avoiding a lot of the typical Bond cliches.

The boat scene didn't cause me to pause my suspension of disbelief. I don't know...I agree with where you are coming from, but compared to say, Die Another Day, Skyfall is like real and unicorns.

[BreakABone]

Originally Posted by Vampyr

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For example, in Skyfall, when he approaches the women on the boat in the shower, and she's just like 'oh hai, sexy times nao'. First of all, it seems super risky to just get naked on a boat with enemies about. Second of all, this lady was sold into the sex trade. I doubt in reality she would be that open to having sex with a stranger.

The second point is valid.

The first point I'm a bit confused about. I was under the impression that she was the main's villain lover.. so these weren't her enemies. They were her protection.

[Vampyr]

Originally Posted by BreakABone

The second point is valid.

The first point I'm a bit confused about. I was under the impression that she was the main's villain lover.. so these weren't her enemies. They were her protection.

I mean they were his enemies, and he was in a very compromising position. XD

I've actually not seen very many Bond movies...just Goldeneye, Casino Royale, and Skyfall. I really want to like them more - the premise is awesome.

It's also worth mentioning I didn't have a very good theater experience during Skyfall...there were a couple of women a few seats down who wouldn't shut up. Ugh.

I want to watch it again when it comes out on blu ray.

[BreakABone]

Originally Posted by Vampyr

I mean they were his enemies, and he was in a very compromising position. XD

I've actually not seen very many Bond movies...just Goldeneye, Casino Royale, and Skyfall. I really want to like them more - the premise is awesome.

It's also worth mentioning I didn't have a very good theater experience during Skyfall...there were a couple of women a few seats down who wouldn't shut up. Ugh.

I want to watch it again when it comes out on blu ray.

But they didn't know he was on-board when he made nasty.