Game of Thrones Season 2

[Teuthida]

This thread is like reading a blacked out FBI document.

[ZebraRampage]

Originally Posted by Teuthida

This thread is like reading a blacked out FBI document.

I might have to edit my post to more accurately look like a confidential document.


EDIT: There, I fixed it!

[Teuthida]

Haha perfect!

[Seth]

I forget, was the wilding that Theon and Starks capture in season one, was she in the book? Because it seems like she has replaced the Reeds...

[ZebraRampage]

Originally Posted by Seth

I forget, was the wilding that Theon and Starks capture in season one, was she in the book? Because it seems like she has replaced the Reeds...

Osha, the wildling woman, was captured in the first book. She was with the party of wildlings that tried to capture/kill Bran when he was in the Wolfswood with Robb and a few other men from Winterfell. Theon and Robb killed all the other Wildlings and captured Osha in the process.

Osha was still part of the escape in the book, but the Reeds were there too.

[Angrist]

The Reeds aren't wildlings. Although I guess they share the same 'magic'.

[Professor S]

Can we please discuss the series and not the books? This thread had become completely useless to me because every sentence is redacted in some way, yet STILL manages to spoil plot lines.

[Typhoid]

Originally Posted by Professor S

Can we please discuss the series

Futile.
Someone will shout "But in the books...".

That's my main "problem" with watching the show. Sometimes the people I'm with will comment about how a certain scene "isn't in the books", or "It didnt happen like that in the book".

I feel like saying "No, of course not. This is not a book. Please pay more attention to the understanding of a 50 minute timeslot and the idea of attempting constant viewing entertainment attempting to draw in paying customers every week while also filling in storylines, and revising certain things in the story that the writer didn't specifically care for so you're simply not watching 50 minutes of in-a-characters-head-dialogue explaining his stance on what's happening."

The best comment was made when I was watching it on the weekend:

Person A: "Where's his [John Snow] wolf? He was everywhere in the book."
Person B: "I don't know. Probably off not wasting the CGI budget."


Anyways, I thought it was a good episode. I think they all are. I haven't really been let down yet.
I've heard people bitch and complain that the dragons weren't stolen in the books.
Having not read the book, I say: tough shit.
I'd rather watch what they put in, than watch her play with her dragons and talk about how much she loves them for those 17 minutes.
But she'll get her dragons back anyhow.




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I'll make future predictions, as a non-book reader and show-lover.
When I'm thinking about what will happen in the show, I try to apply real medieval thinking to it. Because it seems clear this is written more like faux-fantasy-histroy, and less like "These characters you're reading about/watching are invincible" as in normal stories/shows. There might be invincible characters, but just because you've got the perspective of a character doesn't mean that person won't die. Everyone is mortal but those who are not - rather than everyone is immortal but those who are not.

It seems clear that the Starks are all fucked. That seems like a theme of the show; is that the Starks are the glue that held Westeros together (metaphorically, not through actions.) and once Geoffrey had Ned killed; the kids spread out for vengeance/to flee [making them easier to pick apart and kill. Divide and conquer]- the armies will clash and destroy eachother - which will then cause the empire to be weak to attack from some dragons, or an attack from wildings and/or some other small-army-turned-opportunist. And all that magic shit, and walkers and all that. The people will pick themselves apart with petty fights, and then once magic demons spring forth, they'll all get their faces raped with demon-dicks. All the people leading armies are typically young men who (I believe) don't remember the last winter they had [And if they're not young men who don't remember winter, they're angry adults with blinders on]. And apparently winter is horribly terrifying - so they're not thinking about what will come in winter, they're thinking about pointless shit that won't matter once winter comes.

I think one of the only Starks that won't be harmed is Rickon. That kid is clearly magic (and his sister. Forget her name). He has magic dreams and shit. Same with the girl. But she's too into Lannister shit, she'll probably either die or be an opportunistic traitor. There was a lot of emphasis on legacy and family history and all that when he was talking to her. Maybe she'll be brainwashed and treat him like a father figure in time, or just act like she is so she can get a sword in him.
I also don't consider John Snow to be a Stark, because he is a Snow. So I'm not including him in the "I think all the Starks are basically boned" idea. He's got some wildling in him, so he'll probably try to get in with them to get back to his people. maybe he'll outright join them. Nothing has happened to give me a clear way to speculate, really. Magic or not - I'm applying the idea that these people are humans, and have the human desire to survive through opportunistic lying. Much like everyone who gained power in medieval Europe.

I think Sansa (or whatever) will get pregnant with the cunty-kings kid. But I have a feeling that makes her immediately doomed because the people will want to gut the Lannister family of Geoffrey's bloodline.


And for the love of God if you're read the books, don't comment on predictions. Right or wrong, because either way you're giving a definite answer. Speculation is the fun part.

[Dylflon]

Originally Posted by Typhoid

The best comment was made when I was watching it on the weekend:

Person A: "Where's his [John Snow] wolf? He was everywhere in the book."
Person B: "I don't know. Probably off not wasting the CGI budget."

I was person B!

[Angrist]

Originally Posted by Professor S

Can we please discuss the series and not the books? This thread had become completely useless to me because every sentence is redacted in some way, yet STILL manages to spoil plot lines.

I really think that Professor S is too worried about things that don't in fact bother him. Talking about the series is almost impossible without talking about the books. People will always have questions like who is that person, how was it in the book, etc.

So Professor S, all things considered, there is nothing wrong with talking about the books in this thread. At least not until you can define how it bothers you so much.

[Typhoid]

At least not until you can define how it bothers you so much.

He said why.

because every sentence is redacted in some way, yet STILL manages to spoil plot lines.

[Angrist]

Originally Posted by Typhoid

He said why.

You don't get it.

[ZebraRampage]

I won't comment about the books anymore either, since this is strictly about the show. And I won't spoil anything about the show either. With my last post I was just trying to clear up what most people were saying about the books, and adding a few things, but that's all I'll contribute.

The series is pretty damn good regardless of the changes, which are inevitable. I'm really looking forward to seeing how this whole series plays out through to the 5th book. This story has so many plot lines and so much to come as well.

[Angrist]

This part. I wanted to be funny.

Originally Posted by Angrist

So Professor S, all things considered, there is nothing wrong with talking about the books in this thread. At least not until you can define how it bothers you so much.

[Typhoid]

This wasn't my favourite episode. Not because I thought it was bad.
Just because I wasn't anticipating that much intense silence/dialogue in one episode. I guess they had to cram it in for set-up for next episode(s).


I have nothing to really comment on because not a whole lot really "happened". It seemed more of a set-up for future episodes, which is totally understandable and okay. Heavy dialogue and character building needs to be accomplished, too.

My favourite parts were when Aria gave _____ his own name, and he said "A girl has no honour", and she just shrugged nonchalantly. I thought that was great on a lot of levels. Also the pronunciation of the writer of The History of the Battles of Westeros (or whatever it was called). Dinklage is a great actor. The way he just stared at that book afterwards when he wasn't in dialogue like he was still trying to figure it out, then just gives the subtle not and a "Ha!" later when the name is said.