My online setup

DarkMaster · 08-20-2002, 04:49 PM

i need some advice. should i use an ethernet hub or a router? the hub is less expensive but the router has a firewall. i also heard that the router's firewall might block the connection to the PS2. somebody help me please.

gekko · 08-20-2002, 05:33 PM

Don't worry about the firewall. It's more determined by whether your ISP allows you to use multiple IP addresses.

Jonbo298 · 08-20-2002, 06:19 PM

I don't think the PS2 really needs a firewall. No one, as of yet

, has hacked into PS2(s).

DarkMaster · 08-20-2002, 06:23 PM

so i should just get the less expensive ethernet hub instead of the router? (the router is double the price of the hub btw)

Perfect Stu · 08-20-2002, 07:00 PM

don't you need a router to split your connection tho?

what do each do? (if I'm wrong, which I probably am)

Crono · 08-20-2002, 07:06 PM

I am pretty sure the router and hub are the same, but the router has the firewall. BTW, won't the router block connections sometimes? I think both the router and hub do the same thing.

DarkMaster · 08-20-2002, 07:22 PM

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Originally posted by Perfect Stu
don't you need a router to split your connection tho?

what do each do? (if I'm wrong, which I probably am)

a router and a hub both do the same thing, split the connection. the only difference is that the router is more expensive and has a firewall.

Null · 08-20-2002, 07:29 PM

what one are you planing on getting for the router?

a Linksys one you can go into the settings and adjust the firewall stuff. etc.

if you have other computers on your network. a router would pay off. if its just your pc and ps2, do what ya want :P

gekko · 08-20-2002, 07:38 PM

A router is not a hub with a firewall. A router can assign IP addresses, a hub cannot.

Most ISPs only allow you to connect with 1 IP address. To get anymore, you have to pay a fee. By connecting directly to the modem via a hub, each device will have a different IP, and your ISP probably won't allow it, or you're gonna be paying a higher monthly fee to do so.

A router assigns IP addresses internally, so each device can connect to the internet using the same IP. Get it? Probably not. But I just typed a good explanation, clicked submit, and got an error. ****ty Windows IE6 erased everything when i clicked back, so now you're getting the half-assed version.

DarkMaster · 08-20-2002, 07:45 PM

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Originally posted by gekko
A router is not a hub with a firewall. A router can assign IP addresses, a hub cannot.

Most ISPs only allow you to connect with 1 IP address. To get anymore, you have to pay a fee. By connecting directly to the modem via a hub, each device will have a different IP, and your ISP probably won't allow it, or you're gonna be paying a higher monthly fee to do so.

A router assigns IP addresses internally, so each device can connect to the internet using the same IP. Get it? Probably not. But I just typed a good explanation, clicked submit, and got an error. ****ty Windows IE6 erased everything when i clicked back, so now you're getting the half-assed version.

oh, well pardon my ignorance from my earlier post. I think i can understand wut your saying. i have just one more question though. at radio shack there was 2 different ethernet cables, they were both the same in length but one was more money and it said high speed on it, the other didnt say high speed, wuts the deal with that? thanks.

Joeiss · 08-21-2002, 12:40 AM

Umm.... The "high speed" cables are probably the newer ones, which allow more data to go through the cables at a faster speed.... I think, so don't quote me.

gekko · 08-21-2002, 09:26 AM

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Originally posted by DarkMaster

oh, well pardon my ignorance from my earlier post. I think i can understand wut your saying. i have just one more question though. at radio shack there was 2 different ethernet cables, they were both the same in length but one was more money and it said high speed on it, the other didnt say high speed, wuts the deal with that? thanks.

There's Cat5, Cat5e, and Cat 6. Actually, I know there's probably one higher for that, but not avaliable at the consumer level. Anyway, they are backwards compatible, so you can use any.

Cat 5 supports up to 100MBps transfer. Cat 5 e supports up to 300MBps. Cat 6 supports up to 1000MBps. Now your router will likely only support 10/100, so using a 5e or 6 wouldn't help in any way. The only way you'll benefit from a higher cable is it you use a gigabit hub, or router, and all gigabit cables, plug have gigabit NIC cards.

You can get by with Cat 5.

DarkMaster · 08-21-2002, 12:01 PM

great, thanks a lot Gekko

bobcat · 08-22-2002, 06:10 AM

use a router so u don't have to share the net connection from a Pc.

Router firewalls are very basic. Just use a separate firewall on ur pc if privacy/security is an issue.