LOST Tonight: (2/2 - "LA X")

[Bond]

I am so excited!!!

[Typhoid]

I watched the final episode of Season 5 the other day - and something deep inside of me makes me think they'll explain everything with non-conventional spirituality.

[Bond]

What do you mean by non-conventional spirituality?

[manasecret]

I don't even remember what happened in last season's finale. I guess that recap episode before the premiere will actually be helpful.

[BreakABone]

Awesome, Lost has a Lazarus Pit.

Ra's Al Ghul would be so pissed at them!

[manasecret]

Jacob and the other guy are angels. The other guy being Satan. Angels can't kill other angels. Satan can't go back to heaven until Jacob is dead. Satan wants to go home.

[BlueFire]

Good episodes.

[Fox 6]

crazy.....

[Bond]

Originally Posted by manasecret

Jacob and the other guy are angels. The other guy being Satan. Angels can't kill other angels. Satan can't go back to heaven until Jacob is dead. Satan wants to go home.

I had similar thoughts, but I have to believe it's a little more complicated than just that.

[Typhoid]

Good episodes....I think.
I don't know if I really like the direction this is possibly taking.

[Teuthida]

Not everything spiritual in nature has to conform to Judeo-Christian lore. The statue Jacob was under is the Egyptian goddess of birth, rebirth and the northern sky. Jacob and Smokey are physical nature. I mean, Jacob had a ghost after dying. Do angels have ghosts? Although the part about going home I can see. Home could also just be the temple the Jacob tribe is protecting. They might even be aliens for all we know....four toed aliens...and the temple is a spaceship/warp portal.

And notice how crappy the underwater cgi was? They're in the matrix...and Smokey is an agent!

What do you think about Parallel Jack's neck blood?

[manasecret]

I agree the Angel/Satan description is too simplistic. But those were some quick thoughts.

Any theory will have to include the parallel world, and right now, I have no theories on that.

Some things of note in the parallel universe:

1. The plane doesn't crash (duh).
2. The island is at the bottom of the sea (duh), and presumably now destroyed.
3. Shannon (the tall blonde that Sayid fell in love with early on) was not on the plane, because her stepbrother, Boone couldn't convince her to leave her boyfriend in Australia. I don't remember the backstory here -- can it be explained by the fact the island is destroyed?
4. Desmond is now on the plane, presumably because the island is destroyed and so he never went to the island and never caused the plane to crash. He also (perhaps) disappears from the plane before landing.
5. Jack seems to recognize Desmond. Can that be explained normally? Didn't they meet before?
6. Locke is still paralyzed and presumably lied about going on the walkabout.
7. Hugo is now the luckiest man in the world -- presumably because he didn't use the numbers from the island to win the lotto.
8. Jack had blood on his neck -- from what?
9. Charlie tried to commit suicide on the plane. I don't remember how that is different.
10. Jack's dad Christian and his coffin are now missing from the plane.
11. Locke's bag of knives is missing from the plane.

Anything else?

[Bond]

Originally Posted by manasecret

[*]Locke is still paralyzed and presumably lied about going on the walkabout.

Interesting observation here. Locke's description of his alleged walkabout was very similar to how one would describe one's time on the island to a complete stranger.

Also, Teuthida, that's true. It could very well be that Jacob and Nemesis have influenced past religions / cultures across different times, and the end is only culminating now under a Judeo-Christian worldview.

Edit: Seems like I was right about Nemesis and the smoke monster being the same person! Yay!

I think another reasonable conclusion is that in the one parallel world where the survivors didn't crash, the survivors are significantly worse off than in the parallel world where the survivor did crash. That is to say, the survivors found redemption for their wrongs through each other and the island.

[manasecret]

Originally Posted by Teuthida

Not everything spiritual in nature has to conform to Judeo-Christian lore. The statue Jacob was under is the Egyptian goddess of birth, rebirth and the northern sky. Jacob and Smokey are physical nature. I mean, Jacob had a ghost after dying. Do angels have ghosts? Although the part about going home I can see. Home could also just be the temple the Jacob tribe is protecting. They might even be aliens for all we know....four toed aliens...and the temple is a spaceship/warp portal.

Originally Posted by Bond

Also, Teuthida, that's true. It could very well be that Jacob and Nemesis have influenced past religions / cultures across different times, and the end is only culminating now under a Judeo-Christian worldview.

Ahh I like these ideas. Remember the quote when we first met Jacob:

"They come. They fight. They destroy. They corrupt. It always ends the same." --Man in black
"It only ends once. Everything that comes before is just progress." --Man in white

Originally Posted by Bond

Interesting observation here. Locke's description of his alleged walkabout was very similar to how one would describe one's time on the island to a complete stranger.

Interesting observation -- do you have a hypothesis leading from that?

[Teuthida]

Originally Posted by manasecret

I agree the Angel/Satan description is too simplistic. But those were some quick thoughts.

Any theory will have to include the parallel world, and right now, I have no theories on that.

Some things of note in the parallel universe:

1. The plane doesn't crash (duh).
2. The island is at the bottom of the sea (duh), and presumably now destroyed.
3. Shannon (the tall blonde that Sayid fell in love with early on) was not on the plane, because her stepbrother, Boone couldn't convince her to leave her boyfriend in Australia. I don't remember the backstory here -- can it be explained by the fact the island is destroyed?
4. Desmond is now on the plane, presumably because the island is destroyed and so he never went to the island and never caused the plane to crash. He also (perhaps) disappears from the plane before landing.
5. Jack seems to recognize Desmond. Can that be explained normally? Didn't they meet before?
6. Locke is still paralyzed and presumably lied about going on the walkabout.
7. Hugo is now the luckiest man in the world -- presumably because he didn't use the numbers from the island to win the lotto.
8. Jack had blood on his neck -- from what?
9. Charlie tried to commit suicide on the plane. I don't remember how that is different.
10. Jack's dad Christian and his coffin are now missing from the plane.
11. Locke's bag of knives is missing from the plane.

Anything else?

- Shannon not leaving Australia (the actress didn't want to come back)

- Jack received one bottle instead of two. Also didn't he have a crewcut the first time?

- Charlie tried swallowing the drugs instead of flushing them.

- Locke might have gone on the walkabout (or remembers being on the island; either way he's acting like he did when he first arrived on the island rather than his mopey self)

- No Michael or Walt (Walt's too old but still could have shown Michael)

- Rose didn't have the ring around her neck...the whole finger swelling thing from before.

- Hurley thing about being lucky.

- Desmond being on the plane....might not actually have been there? Didn't Jack and Desmond meet off the island first when running in that stadium?

- Something different about Jack not having a pen and Kate did? I don't remember.