LOST FINALE!!!!

Fox 6 · 05-23-2010, 02:27 PM

This is it people, we have reached end game.

Teuthida · 05-23-2010, 02:40 PM

I can't wait to be disappointed.

I do hope it's put online in two chunks. Would be an awfully long wait otherwise.

Typhoid · 05-23-2010, 03:07 PM

I already know I won't be let down with the show, or the finale.
Because not at any given moment did I ever think or say "It has to be/should be/will be/needs to be science."
I've always taken the show for what it is - fun to watch and entertaining. And that's what every episode has been for me.

Also, something I thought of the other day:

Flocke's mom tells him at a young age that he can't leave the Island, fueling his desire to leave the Island, just because he "Can't". Which I find a nice tie in to the fact he took John Locke's body, especially after Locke's whole "Don't tell me what I can't do" stuff.

Bond · 05-23-2010, 03:12 PM

So, apparently the pilot is being re-aired before the season finale?

BreakABone · 05-24-2010, 12:44 AM

So after all the fan guessing, that's what they went with.

Interesting, most interesting.

Professor S · 05-24-2010, 12:47 AM

So what the hell was up with the island?

Bond · 05-24-2010, 01:28 AM

Epic.

Bond · 05-24-2010, 02:10 AM

P.S. Everyone did not die during the initial plane crash.

Fox 6 · 05-24-2010, 03:36 AM

That was very good. Quite touching.

Dylflon · 05-24-2010, 07:49 AM

Good episode for narrative and character arcs.

Bad episode for giving us answers we so desperately desired.

The show started with one question "What is this crazy island" and then the writers are all like, "we refuse to answer that question".

Typhoid · 05-24-2010, 07:56 AM

I thought it was an amazing episode.
I like the fact they didn't directly answer how or why, and left it to interpretation.

I thought the Island didn't so much matter, because it was more just about Jack. Which is why the 'storyline' stopped when he died - despite the fact things on the Island carried on after his death, as proven when Ben said Hurley was a great number 1.

I also liked the fact 'universe 2' was essentially Purgatory until they could come to terms with the fact they died, and then let go of 'life'. It came down to the people you love being with, and the people who make you what you are.

Great episode, great show.
I'll be watching it again.

Teuthida · 05-24-2010, 10:05 AM

Good ep up to the last 10 min.

So it was purgatory afterall? Which the writers denied? They could have created a much better narrative if it was all going to lead up to them meeting up and being enveloped by a white light. Time travel, electromagnetism, polar bears...all pointless.

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When all else fails: sappy music, tears, white light, and a dog.

Professor S · 05-24-2010, 10:22 AM

I understand why the writers refused to answer the questions about the island, but my main problem is that the island has been the overriding driver of the plot for six years. To end the series without answering the most important question presented is a bit of a failure, IMO.

That said, whatever the writers explained about the island would inevitably fail to meet expectations, so they put themselves in a lose-lose situation. Given their situation, I thought they did a respectable job of cobbling together the divergent plot points and sucking it back to a archetypal GvE/GODvSATAN otherworldly theme.

On a side note, I thought they handled Ben Linus well, but what happened to so many of the other castaways that never made it to the church? Echo?

manasecret · 05-24-2010, 11:23 AM

Epic. I loved the episode. And the ending with Jack dying was touching.

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Originally Posted by Teuthida

Good ep up to the last 10 min.

So it was purgatory afterall? Which the writers denied? They could have created a much better narrative if it was all going to lead up to them meeting up and being enveloped by a white light. Time travel, electromagnetism, polar bears...all pointless.

Maybe I'm confusing your thoughts here, but the whole island and all was not "purgatory", just the sideways universe was.

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Originally Posted by Professor S

On a side note, I thought they handled Ben Linus well, but what happened to so many of the other castaways that never made it to the church? Echo?

These were some of my biggest questions at the end. But I think they touched on this. When they ran into Ana Lucia, I believe Desmond said she wasn't ready. Also, Ben knows the truth, but says he is not ready. I think perhaps for some, the island wasn't their defining moment in life, and so the gathering with the other survivors to move on wasn't their gathering. However, for some I would question that, such as Echo.

Btw, I heard this morning on the news that they left enough unanswered questions that they're going to have explanation shows next season. Such as, "How I Met the Smoke Monster" and such.

I have not checked if this is true. I'm assuming it's a joke until proven otherwise.

Teuthida · 05-24-2010, 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by manasecret

Maybe I'm confusing your thoughts here, but the whole island and all was not "purgatory", just the sideways universe was.

Which is why the writers did a crap job. If the island was purgatory, the show they started with would have made a lot of sense. They kept flashing back to their lives before the island showing their mistakes and flaws, and then working out similar things on the island. Nice and neat.

So then they go ahead and make the island the real world (with all its magic, demigods, and unexplainable nonsense) and create another world which basically just does the same thing except in reverse (and in one season) and makes everything before it a mess and completely void.

If Flocke did manage to get off the island, what then? Nothing. That whole storyline is pointless. I bet if you sat the writers down and forced them to explain everything at gunpoint they couldn't. They know less than the people they led on for six years. They can write good characters and create good mysteries (anyone can create a good mystery if there was never an answer to it to begin with) but boy do they suck at weaving a good story.

EDIT: And if they had any forethought at all, the time traveling would have worked really well with how in the finale different events happen at different times in the real world yet converge in the alt (Jack's bleeding, Hurley and Ben's little talk about being number 1 and 2). Missed opportunity. The whole show was a missed opportunity.