Actually I read an interview with the show's writers/producers where they explained that Martin has gone over with them the entire length of the story and all the major events leading up to the ending. They've teased that they know how the story ends, and so the show will work its way towards that ending with or without the final books.
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Horrible episode. This show just keeps getting worse and worse.
Peter Dinklage is the worst actor in the world!
The story is so boring and bland.
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The changes are totally not big at all and are completely blown out of proportion by die-hard fans who have been living with this story for over a decade. The truth is, there's a ton of fat being trimmed from the books, and rightfully so. Some events that happen a bit later are happening a bit sooner, and vice versa. Changes like the dragons being stolen really don't impact the story at all, it just creates a bit of extra drama for TV, and lets be honest here Dany's story in the second book is boring as hell, she barely does anything, and literally has only 5 chapters in the entire book. They're making her story a bit more interesting, thank god
This was a masterful episode. Completely awesome, with surprises even for a book reader like myself. I thought it was easily one of the best of the entire series so far and the mention of the Bastard of Bolton chills my fucking blood and excites me greatly for what is to come.
Just so you know I wasn't complaining at all, I don't really care what they do as long as it's interesting. I can't wait for the book 3 Dany stuff to happen. (I think that's in book 3...maybe in the end of book 2).
The one thing that is kind of significant is that the Wildling girl knows who Snow is. That was pretty suspenseful in the book - you really feel sorry for the girl and wonder how Jon is going to deal with telling her.
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Sorry didn't mean to make it sound like it was you complaining, I meant fans in general, like I see them all over the internet, plaguing every forum, making it completely insufferable to have any kind of decent conversation about the show.
About your spoiler: it's been a long time since I read this book, but the way it happened in the show, is pretty much how I remembered it happening. I guess I'm probably wrong, but I totally thought it was legit. Didn't she call him a crow every now and then? All the dudes in the wildling camps hated him because they knew he was a crow, they all taunted him and she'd stand up for him, from what I recall. Also when they fuck for the first time, she was all like "is this how boys do it down south?" or something. The way I remember it, she falls in love with a guy who has converted from being a man of the night's watch, proving himself by killing Qorin, and she genuinely believed he wanted to live as a wildling.
This is why I'm not reading the books until the series ends. I don't want my experience convoluted by divergent story lines. I loved the last episode, even though it suffered from a severe lack of Dinklage.
This is why I'm not reading the books until the series ends.
100% this.
Plus, I personally think it would be a lot neater to read what the characters are thinking after having seen what they've done and how they've acted, and all the choices they've made.
Unless the show drastically differs from the books in the future, then that becomes entirely pointless.
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Okay, I just finished reading all of the books less than a month ago after starting them in November, so I'll fill you guys in with what really happened in the books as opposed to what happened in the show.
Jon Snow is made to kill Ygritte after they kill the other wildings that are with her, but she gets away and he doesn't chase after her. He goes back with his companions. I won't say what happens after that because it would spoil the rest of what happens in the Frostfangs.
As Vampyr said about Bran and Rickon, they hide in the crypt and escape later, but a lot of other stuff happens at Winterfell that probably won't be addressed, and there was a conversation between Robb Stark and Roose Bolton(of the Dreadfort) that covered for this.
Also, before Theon captures Winterfell, a girl named Meera Reed and her brother Jojen Reed come from the Greywater Watch, which is at the bottom edge of the north, to tell Bran about "green dreams" that Jojen was having regarding him, which match up with his three eyed crow dream. They completely omitted these characters in the show, but they're really important. They are with Bran and Rickon when the escape. I don't know if they're going to be introduced in another way, so I hope I'm not ruining this for anyone reading this spoiler.
Petyr Baelish never meets with Catelyn Stark down in the Stormlands when she visits Renly Baratheon He also never goes to Harrenhal to meet with Tywin Lannister. The tickler isn't the one who is supposed to be killed in Harrenhal by Jaqen H'ghar, and lastly they changed Theon's sister's name from Asha to Yara. I don't know why they changed her name, but maybe it was too close to the name Osha, which is the name of the wildling lady who is serving Bran at Winterfell.
As for Dany, the dragons don't get stolen, and they changed the name of the third blood rider, but I can't remember which one it was off the top of my head. I noticed this during the first two episodes of season 2. Also, they killed off one of the bloodriders, which didn't happen in the book. All three of them should still be alive. I think one of the girls who takes care of her was also killed in the last episode as well as a lot of her "khalasar", which doesn't happen in the book, but that just backs up the stolen dragon scenario that happens.
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Leaving out the Reeds is the biggest change so far... I really hope (for those who watch) that they'll be introduced later. Pretty important to Bran's story.
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