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Re: The Walking Dead: The Television Series
Old 03-23-2012, 12:57 AM   #1
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if Rick knew that dead people come back as zombies, why was he sitting pretty mindlessly on top of Shane. It doesn't matter though. He mentioned he wasn't sure he believed the CDC guy anyway.


A) His son was right behind him and he had just murdered his best friend. I doubt "Hold on a moment, son - I've got to decapitate the warm corpse of my former best friend before he re-animates and attempts to kills us both. I'm just assuming this will happen at this point, though. But you've got to be sure, even though I have no proof yet!" would be on the tip of his tongue opposed to "Holy fuck, I need to make sure my son wasn't emotionally scarred from possibly seeing his father stab his best friend."

B) But really You argued against yourself the best:

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He mentioned he wasn't sure he believed the CDC guy anyway.
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To those who know: How was the scene of them hacking that dead guy up in the comics a comedy bit?

I think the scene was handled well in the show, I can't imagine how something that heavy could have some "hahas" in there, especially when the tone of the show is clearly not a comedy. Granted I never saw the "first incarnation" of that scene when it was...comedy - but the fact they went over the emotional distress they were having with the fact the people they're murdering and the corpse they're about to desecrate was once a real person just like them was good enough, if not better than any type of comedy I could imagine - especially when placed into this show; which has had very little to no intentional laughs in it.

When I think back to that scene I don't think "Fuck, I wish I was laughing right now at them chopping this guy up", I think "Fuck, hacking up a dead human being and putting his guts all over my body would be fucking hard as shit to have to cope with doing."
Maybe that's just because I can't see the comedy in the show, because it's not a comedy. Maybe the comic was a comedy, or had comedy. Maybe the show isn't intended to have any, and is supposed to be a juxtaposition of the comic - like a more hardcore 'real world' version; especially considering from what I've heard from those who've read it - is that a lot of key things in this are entirely different, if not the exact opposite of what they were in the comics. But I didn't read the comic. I just watch the show. Maybe comedy is what the zombie-infested world is missing. Maybe that's the cure for the disease, and they're all infected because nobody is laughing, right?! Solved it. Comedy


Edit: I've also never heard of Dead Set, but I'll try to check it out this weekend. I am intrigued.
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Re: The Walking Dead: The Television Series
Old 03-23-2012, 06:11 PM   #2
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No no no, I should have clarified my original statement, because I think I caused some confusion.

The scene where they hack up the zombie in the comics wasn't comedic at all. I need to go dust off my comic, but I believe it was just Rick and Glenn in the comic.

What I'm saying is that the whole "hacking up the dead guy/zombie" scene is ultra violent and kind of absurd. It's the type of violence that is very difficult to make work in live action because it's comic violence.

My opinion is that if you are going to take something that violent, and that absurd....you need to put a comedic spin on it to juxtapose the violence. Here are some contexts where a scene like that might work:

Real Life - yeah, I have friends who are going on to be doctors, so they take real college-level anatomy where you dissect donated cadavers. Everyone I know who has taken these classes has a sense of humor about, and strongly dissociates.

In Horror, by the villain - I don't think anyone would have any questions or concerns if Leatherface or Jason cut somebody up.

Comic Violence - One reason why Sin City has not budged from my top 5 comic films is because it is one of the few comic films that actually feels like a comic book. And because of that....scenes like this work:



Comedy - If you are going to show a bunch of characters chopping somebody up, juxtapose that shit with some dark comedy. Dead Set did that brilliantly


My issue with the scene in the Walking Dead where they were cutting up the zombie is that it was not properly juxtaposed with comedy, and it wasn't comic enough. Now....maybe if you had REALLY GOOD ACTORS you could make that scene work in a realistic context....but I just felt like the scene was uncomfortable, and unintentionally funny because it was awkward.

The scene wasn't funny at all in the comic. It was pretty dark. It just didn't work as a dark scene on the show because it was awkward and unintentionally funny. To fix that issue, you can do what I cited in my above examples: juxtapose with humor, or be comic-like.
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Old 03-23-2012, 07:15 PM   #3
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And I just mentioned that scene because we finally knw why they "weren't infected" at that time.
Oh and I think T-Dog was in that scene even though he was supposed to be watching Merle on the roof. Movie mistake!
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Old 04-04-2012, 05:02 PM   #4
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we finally knw why they "weren't infected" at that time.
Please explain what this means.
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Old 03-26-2012, 01:31 AM   #5
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Overall loved this season, by the way. I definitely liked the second half better, but I enjoyed every episode.

Can anyone spill some spoilers and explain (just a little) who the samurai with two pet zombies on chains is?
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Old 03-26-2012, 03:28 AM   #6
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Origin comic which just appeared in Playboy this month. Huh. Could have swore this was known already. Guess she just mentioned it.



If don't want to read that (and is annoying to do so in a video): She was an attorney who had practiced fencing. When the apocalypse hit she found katanas at a neighbor's house. The zombies with her are her boyfriend and his best friend. Cut off their arms and lower jaws so they couldn't attack her and uses them as camo.
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Old 04-04-2012, 06:25 PM   #7
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Ugh. I thought that whole idea of covering yourself with zombie gore was retarded. They were trying not to get infected by whatever it was that was causing the zombies. So why would you COVER YOURSELF with zombie flesh and blood? "As long as it doesn't get into your eyes, right?"

And now in the last episode we find out that they had been infected the whole time. So it finally makes sense...
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Old 04-06-2012, 05:45 AM   #8
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One of my most favourite tv serie which I love a lot.
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Old 07-09-2012, 12:13 PM   #9
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Found this very cool.



And a preview clip from Season 3:
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Old 07-13-2012, 08:49 PM   #10
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Old 07-15-2012, 10:28 AM   #11
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SWEEEEEET

Merle's back, baby. Merle's back.
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Old 07-16-2012, 06:48 AM   #12
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Well Mr. Buttler, Merle truly is a ghost from the past. It is a good shock to see him back.
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Old 10-15-2012, 08:01 AM   #13
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It's back. Thought that was a solid first episode.
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Old 10-15-2012, 03:23 PM   #14
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It was good, but I continue to be amazed that the dumbest people on earth appear to the ones who survive the zombie apocalypse. They just make the most horrible choices.

We'll take this old man, our only doctor and person capable of delivering a baby, and put him on the front lines!
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Old 10-22-2012, 10:07 AM   #15
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Second episode was also really good. This season is shaping up nicely.

I'm so glad Rick killed Mexican-Shane. Really shows the character has learned not to even let crap like that get started anymore. Was also interesting to see how the hardened criminals reacted to Rick and company, who, after everything they've went through, are way more tough.
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