Russian Kids in Big Trouble

Crash · 09-01-2004, 11:59 AM

hundred of kids taken hostage at a school

http://cnn.aimtoday.cnn.com/news/sto...06&floc=NW_1-T

mickydaniels · 09-01-2004, 12:08 PM

Yeah, I saw that this morning at around 6 before I left for school. Knowing the history of Putin's plans hostage rescues, a lot of people are going to die.

Crono · 09-01-2004, 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by mickydaniels

Yeah, I saw that this morning at around 6 before I left for school. Knowing the history of Putin's plans hostage rescues, a lot of people are going to die.

Russia doesn't negotiate with terrorists, at least not Chechen terrorist scum. It may not be the best solution, but it is the Russian way.

Crash · 09-01-2004, 12:11 PM

what kinda fuct up group takes kids hostage?

Crono · 09-01-2004, 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Crash

what kinda fuct up group takes kids hostage?

Desperate terrorists like those. The Chechens have already beheaded hundreds of young Russian soldiers (most who were conscripted at the age of 18) for not converting to their religion (...Islam).

And all this happens because the Russian government refuses to recognize Chechnya as an independent state (and really, it's so frickin small you probably couldn't even point out it on the damned globe, so who the hell cares).

It's sick. The Caucus (part of the world that exists between Russia and Turkey) is one of the most dangerous parts of the world. There's at least 2 wars going on, and 1 ceasefire (I think).

Typhoid · 09-01-2004, 12:20 PM

I heard about this, this morning, and i was amazed how they could hold elementary students hostage..Its sickening.

Crash · 09-01-2004, 12:31 PM

well the article says secondary school, which is high school *shrugs*

mickydaniels · 09-01-2004, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Crash

well the article says secondary school, which is high school *shrugs*

I thought that was understood by all, already.

Grades 1-8, primary school since they used to be in the same school until the mid 1900's
and

grades 9-12, secondary school.

They use the same distinctions here, too.

Canyarion · 09-01-2004, 01:07 PM

That's just sick......
I really don't understand why Russia doesn't let them have their country!

Crono · 09-01-2004, 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Canyarion

That's just sick......
I really don't understand why Russia doesn't let them have their country!

Well, Chechnya also invaded a neighbouring Russian republic called Dagestan. If the Chechens attacked another Russian republic, why should they be deserving of their own land?

And would you want a country to be controlled by Islamic terrorists? More of the reason to keep it in the federation.

mickydaniels · 09-01-2004, 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Canyarion

That's just sick......
I really don't understand why Russia doesn't let them have their country!

Do we really need another Eastern European nation?
Perhaps what you should ask is why can't they just live together?

Fox 6 · 09-01-2004, 02:16 PM

I'm not defending the terrorists or anything but russia went into Chechnya in 1994 to make them part of russia.

Typhoid · 09-01-2004, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by mickydaniels

I thought that was understood by all, already.

Grades 1-8, primary school since they used to be in the same school until the mid 1900's
and

grades 9-12, secondary school.

They use the same distinctions here, too.

I didnt read the article, i heard it on the radio, i guess the guy messed up. My mistake.

GameMaster · 09-01-2004, 03:47 PM

It's a great strategy, cold and heartless, but powerful nonetheless. With all those children it's going to be hard for Russia not to negotiate. They have a lot on the line if they decide to be tough and just ignore the requests.

Professor S · 09-01-2004, 04:00 PM

It doesn't matter. You DO NOT negotiate. Not one concession. Not one word. The only way to convince terrorists that these tactics will not work is by not allowing them to work. If you give them ANYTHING, it will only encourage more terrorist acts such as this.

Is that a harsh stance? Yes, and a difficult one too, but its the only way to handle the situation without creating even more problems.

Look at Spain. One train bombing and their whole society caved in to the pressure and what was a close race became a blow out. Do you think that didn't encourage the terrorists to try even more attacks like that one? They affected the ELECTION PROCESS of another nation, so they most likely will try and do it again.