Ultimate Nfl Thread 02/03

Perfect Stu · 11-29-2002, 07:22 PM

as of December 31st, End of Regular Season

STANDINGS (Playoff teams in bold)

AFC EAST

1.N.Y. Jets 9-7 Division Champs
2.New England 9-7
3.Miami 9-7
4.Buffalo 8-8

AFC NORTH

1.Pittsburgh 10-5-1 Division Champs
2.Cleveland 9-7
3.Baltimore 7-9
4.Cincinnati 2-14

AFC SOUTH

1.Tennessee 11-5 Division Champs
2.Indianapolis 10-6
3.Jacksonville 6-10
4.Houston 4-12

AFC WEST

1.Oakland 11-5 Division Champs
2.Denver 9-7
3.San Diego 8-8
4.Kansas City 8-8

NFC EAST

1.Philadelphia 12-4 Division Champs
2.N.Y. Giants 10-6
3.Washington 7-9
4.Dallas 5-11

NFC NORTH

1.Green Bay 12-4 Division Champs
2.Minnesota 6-10
3.Chicago 4-12
4.Detroit 3-13

NFC SOUTH

1.Tampa Bay 12-4 Division Champs
2.Atlanta 9-6-1
3.New Orleans 9-7
4.Carolina 7-9

NFC WEST

1.San Francisco 10-6 Division Champs
2.St. Louis 7-9
3.Seattle 7-9
4.Arizona 5-11

Stu's TOP 10

1. Philadelphia Eagles
2. Oakland Raiders
3. Tennessee Titans
4. Tampa Bay Buccaneers
5. New York Jets
6. Green Bay Packers
7. Pittsburgh Steelers
8. Indianapolis Colts
9. New York Giants
10. Atlanta Falcons

STATS LEADERS (end of regular season)

QB Passing Leaders

1.Rich Gannon - 4689 yds (26 touchdowns)
2.Drew Bledsoe - 4359 yds (24 touchdowns)
3.Peyton Manning - 4200 yds (27 touchdowns)
4.Kerry Collins - 4073 yds (19 touchdowns)
5.Daunte Culpepper- 3853 yds (18 touchdowns)

RB Rushing Leaders

1.Ricky Williams - 1853 yds (16 touchdowns)
2.LaDainian Tomlinson - 1683 yds (14 touchdowns)
3.Priest Holmes - 1615 yds (21 touchdowns)
4.Clinton Portis - 1508 yds (15 touchdowns)
5.Travis Henry - 1438 yds (13 touchdowns)

WR Receiving Leaders

1.Marvin Harrison - 1722 yds (143 receptions, 11 touchdowns)
2.Randy Moss - 1347 yds (106 receptions, 7 touchdowns)
3.Amani Toomer - 1343 yds (82 receptions, 8 touchdowns)
4.Hines Ward - 1329 yds (112 receptions, 12 touchdowns)
5.Plaxico Burress - 1325 yds (78 receptions, 7 touchdowns)

Stu's Most Valuable Players
QB - 1.Rich Gannon 2.Peyton Manning 3.Chad Pennington 4.Brett Favre
RB - 1.Ricky Williams 2.Priest Holmes 3.Clinton Portis 4.LaDainian Tomlinson
WR - 1.Marvin Harrison 2.Terrell Owens 3.Hines Ward 4.Randy Moss
DEF - 1.Jason Taylor 2.Brian Urlacher 3.Pat Surtain 4.Simeon Rice

Stu's Most Valuable Rookies
RB - Clinton Portis (Broncos)
DE - Dwight Freeney (Colts)
TE - Jeremy Shockey (Giants)

PLAYOFFS

AFC:

First Round

6. Cleveland Browns vs. 3. x - Pittsburgh Steelers (Stu's Pick: Steelers)
5. Indianapolis Colts vs. 4. x - N.Y. Jets (Stu's Pick: Colts)
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1. x - Oakland Raiders (first round bye, homefield advantage through AFC championship)
2. x - Tennessee Titans (first round bye)

x- Division Champion

NFC

First Round

6. Atlanta Falcons vs. 3. x - Green Bay Packers (Stu's Pick: Packers)
5. New York Giants vs. 4. x - San Francisco 49ers (Stu's Pick: Giants)
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1. x - Philadelphia Eagles (first round bye, homefield advantage through NFC Championship)
2. x - Tampa Bay Buccaneers (first round bye)

x- Division Champion

It's Playoff Time

Jason1 · 11-29-2002, 08:25 PM

Interesting...ESPN's rankings are mostly garbage though...

The Germanator · 11-30-2002, 01:28 AM

Honestly...I'll be happy if the Bucs win the NFC...if the Eagles made it to the conference finals, we'd beat em no matter what. Home or away, they're scared of the Eagles...Im frightened of Atlanta and Vick more than Tampa, I don't think anyone wants to play them in the play-offs. Anyway, go Eagles, AJ is gonna blow-up, and McNabb will be back to lead us through the Super Bowl, peace.

Bond · 11-30-2002, 09:51 AM

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Originally posted by The Germanator
Honestly...I'll be happy if the Bucs win the NFC...if the Eagles made it to the conference finals, we'd beat em no matter what. Home or away, they're scared of the Eagles...Im frightened of Atlanta and Vick more than Tampa, I don't think anyone wants to play them in the play-offs. Anyway, go Eagles, AJ is gonna blow-up, and McNabb will be back to lead us through the Super Bowl, peace.

The Bucs? What have you been smoking?

If the Packers have home field advantage it's all over for the NFC playoffs.

Dragon-Fly · 11-30-2002, 10:49 AM

It's gonna be Tamba bay v-s Indionapolis or Pittsburg.

The Germanator · 11-30-2002, 12:02 PM

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Originally posted by Bond
The Bucs? What have you been smoking?

If the Packers have home field advantage it's all over for the NFC playoffs.

Well obviously...but who is 9-2 and who is 8-3 and who holds the tie-breaker at this point? The Bucs...they are in much better position to win it now. And that's what I was saying, I don't care if the Bucs win homefield, I would be scared if the Packers won, but I don't think they will pull it off, considering the Eagles (probably) and the Bucs will have the tie-breakers over them...

Professor S · 11-30-2002, 12:19 PM

What? Did you watch the Eagles Bucs game this year? In case you didn't notice the Eagles won and they are underfeated in the NFC. Thois means as of now they have the tie breaker over EVERYONE in the NFC.

Tampa Bay is a paper champion, and a thin one at that. Brad Johnson has a rubber arm and their defense ISN'T the Ravens defense of 2 years past. Their record is a reflection of their weak as a baby schedule. They have 9 wins, but only 2 of them are on teams with winning records. OOOOOOOH... let me shudder in fear...

The Eagles exposed them and I don't think they will go past their first game in the playoffs, no matter if they have a bye or home field advantage. First game, they lose. Remember I said that.

Jason1 · 11-30-2002, 12:53 PM

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Originally posted by Dragon-Fly
It's gonna be Tamba bay v-s Indionapolis or Pittsburg.

Damn straight.

Im actually expecting Pittsburgh-Green Bay. That would be like a Dream come true.

On a side note, I found this funny movie on shockwave.com, its about this Pittsburgh Steeler fan who tried to fly to heaven during a Pittsburgh Steeler game, I think its very well made, and its funny.

http://atomfilms.shockwave.com/af/content/icarus

Perfect Stu · 11-30-2002, 08:39 PM

Saying that the Bucs are nothing special is also saying Green Bay is terribly overrated, since the Bucs spanked GB last week.

Eagles fans...I think that Philly is a top 3-4 team, but I wouldn't put them ahead of the Bucs...yet

the Eagles have proved that they're quite inconsistant. They got beat by 3 teams in the AFC South, which is considered one of the weaker divisions in football, in 3 meetings. There's no excuse for losing to Tennessee, Jacksonville and then get destroyed by the Colts who were coming off a 3 game losing streak.

And if you're gonna go by only head to head matchups, it would mean that the Texans could be better than any other team in the league since they beat the Jags who beat the Eagles who beat the Bucs who beat the Packers and so on.

the Eagles did expose the fact that Tampa can be quite beatable. But the Colts did the same to the Eagles....only it wasn't a 20-10 game....it was a 35-13 game

I still think the Eagles are easily a top 5 team...but not the best

oh, and my prediction for the Super Bowl is Miami vs. Tampa

The Germanator · 12-01-2002, 02:01 AM

I see your point...but if there is anything consistent about the Eagles, it's that they beat the Buccanears...2 times in a row in the playoffs and earlier this year in a playoff like game. Also, for now we're talking about playoff positioning within the conference. Ok...we're 1-3 in AFC, but 7-0 in the NFC, which is the main concern at this point. We'll worry about the AFC again when we get to the Super Bowl. I think that if the Eagles secure a first round bye, we'll be a pretty good lock for the super bowl birth...it'll give McNabb more time to prepare (well he may be back for week 17), and a home game at the Vet in it's last year will be insane...But of course, the Eagles have let me down before, and nothing is safe in the NFL these days...it's still way to early to talk, I probably jinxed them...oh well

Dragon-Fly · 12-01-2002, 01:43 PM

Well, Miami, to me will not make it past their first match in the Playoff's, that is if they make it. Theirs a lot of teams, that wake of near the end. And Pats are Waking up, Buffalo, Must win tonight, or else, they can nearly say good bye. And The Jets have really woke up, from their horrible start.
So to me, Miami, if they go to the playoff's won't go far. Super Bowl --> Miami "NO". We can find out this week, and next week, who has a better chance to make it.
Green bay, could of clinched Playoff birth like, 2 weeks a go, And they still have to.

Bond · 12-01-2002, 02:21 PM

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Originally posted by Dragon-Fly

Green bay, could of clinched Playoff birth like, 2 weeks a go, And they still have to.

We are obviously going to clinch the division, no contest.

Professor S · 12-01-2002, 02:24 PM

Miami???

Ok, someone's been smoking crack again...

And yes, Green Bay is WAY overrated. They are Brett Favre. If Brett plays inconsistently, which he has been, the Packers play inconcistently. As long as they don't get Home Field in the playoffs, which they won't, I have no worries about them.

Dragon-Fly · 12-01-2002, 02:31 PM

Yes they will Clinch, but what i'm saying is that they had oppertunities, to clinch 2 weeks a go, but they lost stupid games, that they should have won.

Bond · 12-01-2002, 03:56 PM

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Originally posted by Dragon-Fly
Yes they will Clinch, but what i'm saying is that they had oppertunities, to clinch 2 weeks a go, but they lost stupid games, that they should have won.

Well, you could say that about any team. We are 2 minutes away from clinching this week, the first team to do so this year.