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Old 11-06-2003, 08:02 AM   #1
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Why would you want to buy it as a seperate game when you can get it free with another top-game??
I really don't think you Americans have a problem... it's us Europeans who have to buy a new Cube with MKDD. At the moment.
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Re: 3 Ways to Get Zelda Bonus Disc! (New one)
Old 11-06-2003, 08:54 AM   #2
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Why would you want to buy it as a seperate game when you can get it free with another top-game??
I really don't think you Americans have a problem... it's us Europeans who have to buy a new Cube with MKDD. At the moment.
I believe I already outlined that it's perfectly fine to include it with another product for free. It helps promote that product, and gives an added bonus. But, for the people who DO NOT want to buy those products, there should still be the option of buying it seperately.
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Old 11-06-2003, 11:09 PM   #3
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I believe I already outlined that it's perfectly fine to include it with another product for free. It helps promote that product, and gives an added bonus. But, for the people who DO NOT want to buy those products, there should still be the option of buying it seperately.
Thats a nice thought, but thats not how good business works...
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Old 11-06-2003, 11:13 PM   #4
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But I thought Nintendo's first priority is making good, quality video games?
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Old 11-06-2003, 11:14 PM   #5
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But I thought Nintendo's first priority is making good, quality video games?

Oh there's nothing wrong with the Quality of Nintendo's games...great as ever...they never said anything about how you get your hands on the games...
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Old 11-06-2003, 11:19 PM   #6
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Clever marketing and a dedication to making good games, I don't see anything wrong here. Thanks for "clearing up the fog", so to speak.
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Old 11-07-2003, 12:27 PM   #7
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Thats a nice thought, but thats not how good business works...
Oh but of course, it's always good business to screw over your loyal fan base in order to increase profit revenue. Apparently Nintendo has abandoned the old phrase "pleasing the gamers comes before pleasing our pockets". This entire generation for Nintendo has contained constant screw overs for gamers. Take for instance the GCN/GBA connectivity, which is the biggest scam I've ever seen. In order for me to obtain 100% in most if not all my GCN games, I must purchase a gba, connection cables, and in most cases, a gba game. I don't give a crap what lame ass excuses anyone gives, like "well I already own all the stuff so it's alright". Horsesh*t.

Now we see even more crap surfacing, where I must purchase a console, or a game, or some other stupid thing in order for me to get this bonus disc. Is that the thanks I get for being a loyal fan and purchasing their system and games for over a year now? And once again, everyone who already plans to buy another GCN, or a game, or whatever else, seems to have no problem what-so-ever with Nintendo's doings, because it all works out perfectly for them. It's no wonder Nintendo gains such a significant profit, no matter what piss ass mistakes they make, there's always the fanboys waiting in line for their chance to praise them.

Let me tell you about what makes a good business plan. When you satisfy the user base, the people who enjoy and own a GCN, and continue to support the company by purchasing new games and accesaries, THAT is when you have done good business. By trying to gain a larger profit, at the expense of their current user base, that is bad business.
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Old 11-07-2003, 01:07 PM   #8
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Oh but of course, it's always good business to screw over your loyal fan base in order to increase profit revenue. Apparently Nintendo has abandoned the old phrase "pleasing the gamers comes before pleasing our pockets". This entire generation for Nintendo has contained constant screw overs for gamers. Take for instance the GCN/GBA connectivity, which is the biggest scam I've ever seen. In order for me to obtain 100% in most if not all my GCN games, I must purchase a gba, connection cables, and in most cases, a gba game. I don't give a crap what lame ass excuses anyone gives, like "well I already own all the stuff so it's alright". Horsesh*t.

Now we see even more crap surfacing, where I must purchase a console, or a game, or some other stupid thing in order for me to get this bonus disc. Is that the thanks I get for being a loyal fan and purchasing their system and games for over a year now? And once again, everyone who already plans to buy another GCN, or a game, or whatever else, seems to have no problem what-so-ever with Nintendo's doings, because it all works out perfectly for them. It's no wonder Nintendo gains such a significant profit, no matter what piss ass mistakes they make, there's always the fanboys waiting in line for their chance to praise them.

Let me tell you about what makes a good business plan. When you satisfy the user base, the people who enjoy and own a GCN, and continue to support the company by purchasing new games and accesaries, THAT is when you have done good business. By trying to gain a larger profit, at the expense of their current user base, that is bad business.
Just curious what game exactly forces you to have a GBA/GCn connection to get 100%?

As far as I know there is no game that forces you to use it to finish it, even Final Fantasy: Crystal Chronicles can be beat without it.

Maybe that's just me.

And I don't get some people, would you rther Nintendo charge 40 or 50 bucks for a disk that you can buy free with a system or get for free with a 20 dollar magazine subscription or by buying two other games?

I don't see how this is screwing over the "loyal" fans, but maybe that's just me.
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Re: 3 Ways to Get Zelda Bonus Disc! (New one)
Old 11-07-2003, 02:54 PM   #9
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Just curious what game exactly forces you to have a GBA/GCn connection to get 100%?

As far as I know there is no game that forces you to use it to finish it, even Final Fantasy: Crystal Chronicles can be beat without it.

Maybe that's just me.

And I don't get some people, would you rther Nintendo charge 40 or 50 bucks for a disk that you can buy free with a system or get for free with a 20 dollar magazine subscription or by buying two other games?

I don't see how this is screwing over the "loyal" fans, but maybe that's just me.
When I say 100%, I am referring to completely finishing everything there is to do in the game, not just beating it.

And yes, I would rather Nintendo charged $40-$50 for the disc to be sold seperately, at least then I could get the disc without being forced to buy anything else.
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Old 11-07-2003, 04:26 PM   #10
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It still sounds like one of the most stupid things I've ever heard. Paying when you can get it free.

Nintendo should let you 'buy' it with your collected stars from bought games. That way the 'loyal fans' get it for free.
I hope they do that in Europe!!
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Re: 3 Ways to Get Zelda Bonus Disc! (New one)
Old 11-07-2003, 07:13 PM   #11
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And yes, I would rather Nintendo charged $40-$50 for the disc to be sold seperately, at least then I could get the disc without being forced to buy anything else.

Yes, I too would rather pay $40-50 for a bonus disc rather than merely $20 for the disc and a subscription to a magazine. I am an avid subscriber to the "buy less stuff with more money" way of life. Helped me get into this cardboard box you see.

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Not to say I completely disagree with you, however. I would rather be able to buy the disc by itself, as well; I just think its kind of stupid to want to pay $40-50 for one item as opposed to $20 for the same item plus another.


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Old 11-07-2003, 07:49 PM   #12
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Just curious what game exactly forces you to have a GBA/GCn connection to get 100%?

As far as I know there is no game that forces you to use it to finish it, even Final Fantasy: Crystal Chronicles can be beat without it.

Maybe that's just me.

And I don't get some people, would you rther Nintendo charge 40 or 50 bucks for a disk that you can buy free with a system or get for free with a 20 dollar magazine subscription or by buying two other games?

I don't see how this is screwing over the "loyal" fans, but maybe that's just me.

I agree totally. And all three gaming giants are in it for the money...thats what REALLY matters to all three of them. They might say other stuff, but just like anything else it's ALL about the money. If they're making good profits, their successful.
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Old 11-07-2003, 08:12 PM   #13
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But then there's the fact that Nintendo Power is a crappy magazine, and in order to get the disc I'd have to put up with that crappy thing being in my mail box every month....
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