What do you prefer???

The Duggler · 12-08-2003, 01:12 PM

Here's how I see it.

Innovative but unpolished = casual fans (mainly ps2)
Standard but polished = hardcore gamers (mainly nintendo)

BigJustinW · 12-08-2003, 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Nitram

Here's how I see it.

Innovative but unpolished = casual fans (mainly ps2)
Standard but polished = hardcore gamers (mainly nintendo)

I see it the other way around... I think the innovative unosihed games are more for the hardcore, and the polished standard sequals are for the casual gamers. I could give examples if you would like to see them... but meh

Yoda9864 · 12-08-2003, 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by BigJustinW

I see it the other way around... I think the innovative unosihed games are more for the hardcore, and the polished standard sequals are for the casual gamers. I could give examples if you would like to see them... but meh

Ditto. Casual gamers want the cool-looking games, or the sequels to established series. Hardcore gamers are willing to try new, innovative games.

The Duggler · 12-09-2003, 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by BigJustinW

I see it the other way around... I think the innovative unosihed games are more for the hardcore, and the polished standard sequals are for the casual gamers. I could give examples if you would like to see them... but meh

I disagree, hardcore gamers want quality games. Look at WW, Metroid, FZero, Rogue Squadron, Mario Kart, Golf etc... Not much innovation in those games, but they're quality games and almost bug free. But if you take games like GTA and the like, well they are pretty much innovative in the sense that the possibilities are very large, and you can do so much stuff in the game, but they're full of bugs as well.

BigJustinW · 12-09-2003, 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Nitram

I disagree, hardcore gamers want quality games.

Well DUH!

Everybody wants quality games... the arguement in question is new innovative content that isn't polished vs a standard sequal that is polished. Quality has nothing to do with it, imagine that both games got an equal score from most review places... but one is innovative incomplete and has a few bugs, but the things it does have allows it to have the same score as the standard sequal. We are talking Halo vs Smash Brothers Melee here... not some crappy innovative game vs a great polished game... two games, equal scores, but one not living up to it's potential, and the other living up to it's full potental....

Canyarion · 12-10-2003, 06:15 AM

Right said fred.

The Duggler · 12-10-2003, 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by BigJustinW

Well DUH!

Everybody wants quality games... the arguement in question is new innovative content that isn't polished vs a standard sequal that is polished. Quality has nothing to do with it, imagine that both games got an equal score from most review places... but one is innovative incomplete and has a few bugs, but the things it does have allows it to have the same score as the standard sequal. We are talking Halo vs Smash Brothers Melee here... not some crappy innovative game vs a great polished game... two games, equal scores, but one not living up to it's potential, and the other living up to it's full potental....

Well I guess it depends on how you see it. For me a game that is not polished that has bugs and a not so good game play = not quality. Games like GTA, Enter the matrix etc... fall into that category. Those game are cool, but not up to the quality of games like Metroid or Wind Waker.

Yoda9864 · 12-10-2003, 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Nitram

Well I guess it depends on how you see it. For me a game that is not polished that has bugs and a not so good game play = not quality. Games like GTA, Enter the matrix etc... fall into that category. Those game are cool, but not up to the quality of games like Metroid or Wind Waker.

I don't know about GTA on the consoles, but GTA on the PC was one of the better games of it's time. One of the better games looking games of it's time and hardly any bugs either.

BigJustinW · 12-10-2003, 05:24 PM

[quote=Nitram]Well I guess it depends on how you see it. For me a game that is not polished that has bugs and a not so good game play....QUOTE]

Who said the game has to have bad gameplay?

Plud I'd take GTA over Zelda:WW or MP anyday.... guess that makes me a casual gamer

The Duggler · 12-12-2003, 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by BigJustinW

Who said the game has to have bad gameplay?

Well I guess we should define "unpolished" a bit more, but that's just how I see games like GTA or enter the matrix.

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Plud I'd take GTA over Zelda:WW or MP anyday.... guess that makes me a casual gamer

Exactly. You're learning fast!

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What are you trying to say? EA changes too much or too little? In the sports genre, EA has evolved much more over the last few years than it's competitor (Sega )... heck, as a developer in general EAhas probably made the biggest jump forward to this generation from last generation.

hehe see? I'm sure you prefer EA's hockey titles to sega's.. but a hardcore gamer knows that Sega's hockey is much better than EA's.