The official N5 thread: speculate!!

[BigJustinW]

What it should be

It should take what's great about the Gamecube and N64 and just add to it. Don't sell developers or cartoonize and games this time around . Take a page out of Sony's book and re-hash all the big series of the past and innovate the games that didn't do so well in the past... and if they have a great new idea, put it on a whole new title instead of putting a franchise face on it so it can sell.

Nintendo should stop and look for or create at least one killer app in every genre. Popularity and sales aside, just make them for high scores. This gen they were confused over the fact that popularity doesn't mean as much as quality in hardcore gamer's eyes... but that's the past.

I think that N5 should be a gaming only machine again, but it should be a bit more like Xbox. I think with all the pirating going on a HD would be a dumb idea for Nintendo next gen, but they should have some sort of built in memory that has high quantities instead of the rip off memory cards they have. (1/8 of Ps2's memoryfor 1/2 the price) Online gaming is a must, if they don't step into the online gaming world with an iron fist the Nintendo Kingdom will fall. If the next gen starts as late as speculated, they may need to start doing more online now.

As far as specific game changes, Zelda needs to go back to the N64 style. If it ends up being crappy, well, us fans learned our lesson... but Nintendo keeping somthing that big to grow in our imagination is dissapointing. Seeing Link in SC2 didn't help euther, just made me feel worse about it.

Oh, last but not least, PLEASE dan't make a controller as crappy as Gamecube's again... If gamecube didn't get the worse graphics in third party games, it almost allways had the flat out worst controls. Compared to Ps2 and Xbox, Gamecube's third party fighting/wrestling games are unplayable.

now... What it will be

If they keep the same mentallity they have this generation... the "if it don't make money, don't do it" and "popularity over quality" mentality... I think this console will out-class GCN but be a complete failure when compared to Xbox 2 and Ps3.

We may get some nice re-makes, like a GTA3 remake, or a MGS2 remake... heck, why not a Enter the Matrix remake while we are at it . Due to the fact that the online gaming community will be at around probably 4-8 million next generation, I doubt Nintendo will follow it very strong. As long as they never veiw not going online as a mistake this generation, they won't fix it. I expect somewhere around 5 exclusive online games next gen, and the only ones they will truly back online will be the ones already popular on Ps2/Xbox (the sports games for the most part, and maybe a MMORPG)

I expect Sega to re-release there sports line up for the first two years of the generation again on N5, then again back out because the sales arent going to be on the level of the Ps3/Xbox counterparts. If GCN happens to be out the gates first next gen may god have mercy on Nintendo's soul. Take GCN's early line-up and pull out all of the ports and non-exclusive games, and that's how it's going to be for the first year leading up to Xbox 2 and Ps3's releases.

If I had to put money on it, I think that N5's success range will land somewhere between GCN and Dreamcast.

[thatmariolover]

I really don't even know what to say. A lot of good ideas here (particularly the one about the waffle maker). I guess in my opinion Nintendo should almost just back out of the console market and go exclusive for one of the other two consoles.

I just really don't see Nintendo being successful with their business strategy. The US side of Nintendo really seems to understand why they aren't doing as well as they should be, but the Japanese side seems very narrow-minded and arrogant to me. I'm really sick of them because they're not giving us what we want, they're giving us what they think we should want. It's like gifts from my parents during my younger years.

Here's my rendition of the N5 (made in Mario Paint!).

[Yoda9864]

Originally Posted by thatmariolover

Here's my rendition of the N5 (made in Mario Paint!).

Please don't tell me that you have Mario Paint on an emulator, lol.

[BigJustinW]

Originally Posted by thatmariolover

I'm really sick of them because they're not giving us what we want, they're giving us what they think we should want. It's like gifts from my parents during my younger years.

Good point.

*registers to Justin's Nintendo-bashing database*

thank you, +Rep

[Null]

well what you, and everyone else wants, doesnt seem to make them as much money as what they think you want.

so maybe as they keep losing fans and costomers. they'll start to see what really makes them money. or something

[BigJustinW]

Originally Posted by Null

well what you, and everyone else wants, doesnt seem to make them as much money as what they think you want.

so maybe as they keep losing fans and costomers. they'll start to see what really makes them money. or something

lol... you captured the essense of the problem.

Fan support is more important than making money in the end. Nintendo is lucky to have fans who are pretty much slaves to them... if Nitnendo's fans were as loyal to Nintendo as Nintendo is to them Nintendo would be dead.

Nintendo isn't #1 right now, so they are gonna have to take a financial hit to get back up there. I just don't see this happening. They will most likely stay cheap and slowly but surly Nintendo's home consoles will die off. GBA will meet it's match one day too, with it's lack of innovation and extremely cheap hardware it's a matter of time until Nintendo will have to invest more into it to survive.

It's pretty sad when I think about it... they are dying a slow and painful death. By the time they are willing to give up and join with other companies they may not be worth that much.

[Jason1]

Originally Posted by thatmariolover

Here's my rendition of the N5 (made in Mario Paint!).

Nice...very nice. I like the waffle temperature LCD.

[thatmariolover]

Haha. Thanks for all of the positive feedback guys.

And yes, I was running Mario Paint in an emulator I made that in like ten minutes. So, not bad, considering I haven't used it in ages...

In all seriousness, though, I want a HD and BBA, better graphics, and more disk space. Other than that, I'm pretty happy with hardware. I just want more software.

Nice...very nice. I like the waffle temperature LCD.

Yeah, I liked that. Too bad it will never happen. Nintendo would sooner make us hook our GBA up to the system to get a super cool readout like that.

*registers to Justin's Nintendo-bashing database*

Haha. And look at that. I willingly gave BJW ammunition I bet you never thought you'd see the day.

[MasterMind]

Can't they use the same kind of disc format? Except just making it the standard size? How much memory could a disc like that hold? I think thats what they might end up doing. That way the can still have backwards compatibility and not worry so much about software pirating.

[Jonbo298]

As long as Nintendo can have nearly the same file size as whatever disk medium the other 2 companies use, Nintendo will stand a better chance getting more 3rd Party titles...but only time will tell.....

[Canyarion]

If they stick with GODs, they better have about 5x as much capacity.
Ehm I agree with TML and BJW and stuff.