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Hoorah. Bouncer has returned.
I'd like to see all the canadian teams make the playoffs this year. Looks like it could happen too.
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03-27-2004, 04:46 AM
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Hoorah. Bouncer has returned.
I'd like to see all the canadian teams make the playoffs this year. Looks like it could happen too.
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03-27-2004, 09:56 AM
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Welcome back, hope you had a good time.
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So ya, i've been in the dark all this time. From what I heard Moore wouldn't fight so Bert skated after him and punched him in the head and stuff. I also heard that bert fell on him after..so which one broke the guys neck.
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whether he fell or purposly went ontop is up in the air. i kinda feel NHL players would be able to keep themselves up at that point.
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If he was in any other city like Detroit or Toronto people wouldn't be so harsh on him.
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Acually i feel if he was in one of thoes cities and did that thier home fans woulda jumped over him as well. but i feel same punishment woulda implied.
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It's a pitty to see him being booed in many of hte other arenas just because he's such a dominate force on the ice(although this year has been the ****).
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He is boo'd because he is a dominate player, thats part of hockey tho. But that is NOT the only reason. He's booed much of the time becaue he's a cocky arrogent ass. And you better believe the next time Canucks meet the Wild in a playoff game, minnasota is going to remember thoes cocky words he told them last year.
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Well, I can't say bert will be missed much in the playoffs. Sure, he could easily be the deciding factor in the games but he hasn't pulled his weight at all this year. He doesn't have the same fire and intensity that he had before this season. It'll be a chance for other guys on the nucks to step up and fill his role.
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he's going to be missed in the playoffs. thats the time when you need all your players, and expecially your top ones, and its a time when players like bertuzzi really step up tho.
But yes, it is going to be a chance for other guys to step up and work thier tails off to cover for him. and thats going to serve them all very well.
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I feel sorry for Moore as well. Damn, you make a mistake by hitting the league's best player and bam, your neck's broke.
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this is the only thing you said that really bothers me.... Moore made no mistake, Moore did his job, There was nothing wrong with it. And to think he got his neck broke because he didnt want a confrontation is quite sad really. (and on a joking side, best player wasnt even in that game cuz he wasnt on thoes 2 teams  )
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03-27-2004, 11:14 AM
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I do not think Moore should have hit Naslund, just because of a respect factor... But it was not a dirty hit.
And if Bertuzzi was on the Leafs, he probably would have gotten a longer suspension (just look at Aki Berg compared to Messier and Turco).
And bouncer, don't be mad at Betman... He is not the man who hands out suspensions...
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03-27-2004, 02:45 PM
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this is the only thing you said that really bothers me.... Moore made no mistake, Moore did his job, There was nothing wrong with it. And to think he got his neck broke because he didnt want a confrontation is quite sad really. (and on a joking side, best player wasnt even in that game cuz he wasnt on thoes 2 teams  )
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What do you mean moore made no mistake? He tried to injure the leagues best player at the time( Naslund) watch the video again, he sticks out his elbow to hit him in the nose! And moore thought that fighting Cooke would even everything out....So he injures The Canucks best player for a week and a half, then Gets into a fight with the Smallest player on our team......I can see why thats fair. And no, i dont blame Betuzzi for what he did. He was pissed off at Moore for giving his Best friend a concussion, and he was frusterated because at the time we were behind Colorado(in points) by about 2 or 3 and it was an important game, and we were losing 9-2. I would be a little frusterated, and who better to take that anger out on Moore? He PROBABLY didnt mean to do the extent of this though. The thing that pisses me off the most is that Berts my 2nd Fav. player( next to Linden) and the media was making him sound like a monster, like he didnt care what he did or something.
(please not because of my A**holeishness, im not saying anyone else is wrong,.....just that in less wronger. I have enough people on Gametavern who think im a big retad already anyways)
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03-27-2004, 03:11 PM
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I don't think the media was making him out to be a monster.... But what he did was pretty damn vicious.
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03-27-2004, 03:21 PM
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The Vancouver media was...for the following week every channel always had something about Betuzzi, and they just kept showing when he hit Moore, and when Bertuzzi and Blake bot fell on Moores head. They didnt say anything about how he was sorry.
(Canucks play Dallas tonight for home-ice advantage in the playoffs....Im takin bets on the score....Van 4 Dallas 2....)
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03-27-2004, 03:23 PM
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I don't think the media was making him out to be a monster.... But what he did was pretty damn vicious.
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Exactly. I don't care what the hell the context was, and what Moore did to Naslund, etc. Bertuzzi punched the guy in the back of head and broke his neck. I repeat, broke his neck. Yes, he didn't mean to hurt him that bad (but he did mean to hurt him) and violence is a part of hockey, but this was a serious offense. He was only a "monster" because well, he commited a monstrous act of seriously injuring someone and possibly ending their career. That isn't excusable, not one bit.
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03-27-2004, 03:37 PM
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The punch wasnt enough to break his neck, the punch knocked him out. The fallin on his head broke his neck. Cuz u got Blake and Betr falling on ur neck....thats 400lbs
(im not trying to piss ppl off with this, im just canadian and happen to love hockey more than anything else....especially the canucks)
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03-27-2004, 03:58 PM
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The punch wasnt enough to break his neck, the punch knocked him out. The fallin on his head broke his neck. Cuz u got Blake and Betr falling on ur neck....thats 400lbs
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Well, I know that...I said he punched him and broke his neck, I suppose I wasn't specific enough. I don't care how he did it anyway, he broke his neck...
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03-27-2004, 04:15 PM
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The punch wasnt enough to break his neck, the punch knocked him out. The fallin on his head broke his neck. Cuz u got Blake and Betr falling on ur neck....thats 400lbs
(im not trying to piss ppl off with this, im just canadian and happen to love hockey more than anything else....especially the canucks)
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So because you love hockey, especially the canucks, you are blind to see that what Bertuzzi did was disgustingly wrong?
And remember, Bertuzzi fell ontop of Moore because he was holding onto Moore's jersey. He could have let go and remained standing, but then he had to go and put his other hand on Moore's shoulder too. That made it look even more intentional...
I don't know where I am going with this, but I just hate blind fans like yourself. Just admit that what Bertuzzi did was horrible, because that is the truth.
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03-27-2004, 04:19 PM
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So because you love hockey, especially the canucks, you are blind to see that what Bertuzzi did was disgustingly wrong?
And remember, Bertuzzi fell ontop of Moore because he was holding onto Moore's jersey. He could have let go and remained standing, but then he had to go and put his other hand on Moore's shoulder too. That made it look even more intentional...
I don't know where I am going with this, but I just hate blind fans like yourself. Just admit that what Bertuzzi did was horrible, because that is the truth.
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If u read the posts at the bottom, i dont satnt by what he did, i do think it was shameful and disgusting, but i understand that he didnt mean to do what he did. i wasnt sayin the the means was justified by the mode, im just saying that it got blown way out of perportion. it wa bad, dont put it on CNN and stuff like that. Messier speared a guy in the balls last week and got 3 games....that sounds like intent to injure to me.
And im not standing by why he did it or what he did.
(download the video again, and yes he could have let go, but Moore still would hae fell om his face, and Bertuzzi and Blake still would have landed on his head)
And look, i dont want to get hated so lets stop the talk about bertuzzi, and start the talk back on Hockey.
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03-27-2004, 04:54 PM
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Talking about Bertuzzi is still talking about hockey. Messier got two games, not three... But he should have gotten at least 4. But, are you really gonna sit a legend out who will probably be retiring after this season?
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Talking about Bertuzzi is still talking about hockey. Messier got two games, not three... But he should have gotten at least 4. But, are you really gonna sit a legend out who will probably be retiring after this season?
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I dont think it should matter who the player is, but on what he does. If Gtezky came back, and did what Bertuzzi did, do you think he would get the same suspension? What about Lemieux, Yzerman. The only good "Hall of famer" (i use that term lightly) that woul have got the same number of game as Bertuzzi is probably Lindros
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Talking about Bertuzzi is still talking about hockey. Messier got two games, not three... But he should have gotten at least 4. But, are you really gonna sit a legend out who will probably be retiring after this season?
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I dont think it should matter who the player is, but on what he does. If Gtezky came back, and did what Bertuzzi did, do you think he would get the same suspension? What about Lemieux, Yzerman. The only good "Hall of famer" (i use that term lightly) that woul have got the same number of game as Bertuzzi is probably Lindros
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And why not?That is a hypothetical question.Lemieux Yzerman ? I haven't heard enough about Lemieux Yzerman to have an opinion.There might be others.
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