Here comes the NHL Playoffs!

Typhoid · 03-27-2004, 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Joeiss

So because you love hockey, especially the canucks, you are blind to see that what Bertuzzi did was disgustingly wrong?

And remember, Bertuzzi fell ontop of Moore because he was holding onto Moore's jersey. He could have let go and remained standing, but then he had to go and put his other hand on Moore's shoulder too. That made it look even more intentional...

I don't know where I am going with this, but I just hate blind fans like yourself. Just admit that what Bertuzzi did was horrible, because that is the truth.

If u read the posts at the bottom, i dont satnt by what he did, i do think it was shameful and disgusting, but i understand that he didnt mean to do what he did. i wasnt sayin the the means was justified by the mode, im just saying that it got blown way out of perportion. it wa bad, dont put it on CNN and stuff like that. Messier speared a guy in the balls last week and got 3 games....that sounds like intent to injure to me.
And im not standing by why he did it or what he did.

(download the video again, and yes he could have let go, but Moore still would hae fell om his face, and Bertuzzi and Blake still would have landed on his head)

And look, i dont want to get hated so lets stop the talk about bertuzzi, and start the talk back on Hockey.

Joeiss · 03-27-2004, 05:54 PM

Talking about Bertuzzi is still talking about hockey. Messier got two games, not three... But he should have gotten at least 4. But, are you really gonna sit a legend out who will probably be retiring after this season?

Typhoid · 03-27-2004, 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Joeiss

Talking about Bertuzzi is still talking about hockey. Messier got two games, not three... But he should have gotten at least 4. But, are you really gonna sit a legend out who will probably be retiring after this season?

I dont think it should matter who the player is, but on what he does. If Gtezky came back, and did what Bertuzzi did, do you think he would get the same suspension? What about Lemieux, Yzerman. The only good "Hall of famer" (i use that term lightly) that woul have got the same number of game as Bertuzzi is probably Lindros

GT News · 03-27-2004, 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Typhoid

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Originally Posted by Joeiss

Talking about Bertuzzi is still talking about hockey. Messier got two games, not three... But he should have gotten at least 4. But, are you really gonna sit a legend out who will probably be retiring after this season?

I dont think it should matter who the player is, but on what he does. If Gtezky came back, and did what Bertuzzi did, do you think he would get the same suspension? What about Lemieux, Yzerman. The only good "Hall of famer" (i use that term lightly) that woul have got the same number of game as Bertuzzi is probably Lindros

And why not?That is a hypothetical question.Lemieux Yzerman ? I haven't heard enough about Lemieux Yzerman to have an opinion.There might be others.

The Germanator · 03-27-2004, 06:16 PM

I think that this arguing about "well, I bet if *insert player here* did it they wouldn't have suspended him for as long" is silly. Look, you don't know how long they would suspend Lemieux or Gretzky if they did the same thing, so there is no point in questioning it.

P.S: Flyers have lost two games in a row to the NY teams...damn it...

Null · 03-27-2004, 08:26 PM

and from a while above there.... Moore did not try to injure anyone. that was a clean hit, he had no way of knowing Naslund would bend down right as he hit.

And no he shouldnt of not tried. that hockey, you dont just let someone go buy because he's better then you. you work hard. accidents happen. Burtuzzi didnt mean to injure anyone either.

Typhoid · 03-27-2004, 10:02 PM

To get off of the Bertuzzi thing. The Canucks play in less than an hour(they play at 7:00 PT) im takin bets on the score....theres no prizes, but it passes the time.

Van- 4
Dal-2

Seth · 03-31-2004, 03:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Joeiss

Messier got two games, not three... But he should have gotten at least 4. But, are you really gonna sit a legend out who will probably be retiring after this season?

That shouldn't have any weight. If that's the case, then since Naslund was the leading scorer Moore should have hella let up on that hit. He didn't though, he leaned into it. Bertuzzi pulled some dumb **** out there. I'm incredibly biased with this topic but I can't stand how just as vicious attacks around the league are ignored in comparison just because the extent of the damage is less.

Hey, Jason King scored again. I wish the guy kept his early season pace. He was the leading goal scorer for a while and then went dry. He might be a playoff guy. *hopes*

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this is the only thing you said that really bothers me.... Moore made no mistake, Moore did his job, There was nothing wrong with it. And to think he got his neck broke because he didnt want a confrontation is quite sad really.

If Moore's job is to be the tough guy and check hard then he should live up to it and be willing to take the recourse for his hit(s). Realistically the NHL is a league that has laws. There is always a reaction to an action. It's sad that Moore had his neck broke unintentionally but he should have had the guts to atleast standup for his hit and duke it with someone who would have provided a fair fight. Anyone of the Canucks players who were willing to fight him would have got the instigator anyway.

edit: ack oilers lose to st louis

oilers have 3 games left and the blues have 4.

I hope they make the playoffs. First time in how long that all 6 have made it. Ever happened before?

Null · 03-31-2004, 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by bouncer_agb

If Moore's job is to be the tough guy and check hard then he should live up to it and be willing to take the recourse for his hit(s). Realistically the NHL is a league that has laws. There is always a reaction to an action. It's sad that Moore had his neck broke unintentionally but he should have had the guts to atleast standup for his hit and duke it with someone who would have provided a fair fight. Anyone of the Canucks players who were willing to fight him would have got the instigator anyway.

doesnt matter if he was being a tough guy or not, checks are checks. all players check, and its part of the game.
Fighting arguably is not, there is no rule that states you have to fight. his job is to play hockey, he did. with a clean hit that something no one could have expected happend. but he did nothing wrong. now because he didnt want to fight he may never play again.
Come on

Seth · 03-31-2004, 11:49 AM

RARRR

I know you're pretty much right but I need something to try and justify it.

Bullocks. The only way this season will end in a good way for me is if we get the division title.....and don't get knocked out the first round.

Typhoid · 03-31-2004, 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by bouncer_agb

RARRR

I know you're pretty much right but I need something to try and justify it.

Bullocks. The only way this season will end in a good way for me is if we get the division title.....and don't get knocked out the first round.

Oh we will get the Devision title, we will, ill hold you all up to that. I say we (vancouver) will be ahead of Colorado by 1 point.

-------------Canucks All The Way!------------------------

Joeiss · 03-31-2004, 08:30 PM

They should throw out the instigator rule... I mean, going back to the Naslund incident, somebody would have just fought Moore, and the situation would have been over.

I mean, just look at when McSorely checked Gilmour a bit too hard in the playoffs in 93... Then Wendel beat the crap out of McSorely... And that was the end of it...