Crisis of Creativity

Vampyr · 03-29-2004, 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by jeepnut

Yes, but take a kid who has only ever seen a PS2, GC, or Xbox and then sit them infront of an NES. Do you think the answer would be the same? We love the NES so much because it was our first and we had never seen anything like it. Videogame systems these days aren't so new anymore. It tough to find game concepts that people have never seen or played in some way before, therefore, we are getting harder and harder to impress. Also, age makes you a more demanding customer.

Well, you see, I owned an NES, but I never owned an SNES. When I think back, I do think I had more fun playing my NES than any other system. Maybe I think this because of what you said...but I have this feeling that if I were to go out and buy a SNES right now and get a bunch of games for it and come home and start playing, I would have more fun than I do with my GCN. (not saying I dont have fun with my GCN...I love it...but I'm just making a point that the SNES has better quality games.)

And what your saying about concepts running dry is both true and untrue. Their are concepts out there...we just havnt thought of them yet. The imagination is a wonderful thing...it has endless possibilites. While it is getting harder to find new ideas...they are out there. This is like saying that the music industry will crash someday because all the "good" lyrics are taken. Or saying that books and novels will eventually become irrelevent because no one has anything new to right about.

Someone just needs to have a revelation...and push the envelope a bit.There are ideas out there...but current game developers are doing a crappy job finding and utilizing them.

The Germanator · 03-29-2004, 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Vampyr

Well, you see, I owned an NES, but I never owned an SNES. When I think back, I do think I had more fun playing my NES than any other system. Maybe I think this because of what you said...but I have this feeling that if I were to go out and buy a SNES right now and get a bunch of games for it and come home and start playing, I would have more fun than I do with my GCN. (not saying I dont have fun with my GCN...I love it...but I'm just making a point that the SNES has better quality games.)

This coming from the guy who was dissing all the votes for the old school charcters in the character battle...

See, because that's exactly how I feel. I like those old games and old characters so much better than the new games and new chracters. So, I associate these new chracters with the trend of gaming going downhill for me, personally. There hasn't been a greater span of gaming for me than from NES-Nintendo 64. It's all gotten progressively worse for me personally since then.

Dyne · 03-29-2004, 12:21 PM

Meh, as long as games are fun, I'll play them..

Perfect Stu · 03-29-2004, 12:59 PM

PS2 will coexist with PS3. Sony will encourage developers to continue to support the PS2 for another 5 or 6 years...and just to think about how big the PS2 userbase will be in a few years, I think that a lot of developers will still be churning out PS2 titles for years to come.

As for creativity? pssh...I look at titles like ICO, Karaoke Revolution and GTA3 and know that creativity isn't going anywhere.

GameMaster · 03-29-2004, 01:19 PM

My first system was NES but my 'gaming high' occured on the Sega Genesis. And I think it had more to do with the games than my age. Although age might play as a small factor. I think part of the problem is too much focus is put on achieveing new visual styles and/or better graphics. I think I would still have to choose playing an old skool, co-op, side-scrolling game over one of these new fandangled 'gems' like Prince of Persia or Metroid Prime (these are just examples, I'm not targeting either one of these games).

DimHalo · 03-29-2004, 03:21 PM

In my opinion, the old games are better than the new ones. But I also think that they were catered more towards my ideal style of game. The new ones cater to a different crowd. In addition, I tend to be happier playing games that use some of the same concepts of the ones I played when I was younger (nostalgia I guess). For example, I really like Wind Waker because it uses a lot of the same sounds from SNES Zelda (trivial, I know, but it works). SO, the companies should take things like that into consideration. But they also have to develop new stuff for the "kiddies" because they would not appreciate what I mentioned before.

And finally, there is no end to creativity, just an end to what people will accept.

Typhoid · 03-29-2004, 03:44 PM

I think that all the old games and systems are better because, yes, they were origional and new. No one had ever seen a Mario game before, Now theres about 20 collectively. Now games are repetative amongst there former selves. I think one of the only titles that has gotten better with age is Final Fantasy, though the best one was Final Fantasy 7, and even Square was short on ideas so they had to make a remake of FFX. (FFX-2 is more like Square teamed up with the makers of Charlies Angels.)
But its just that nothings new anymore, most of us have played NES, SNES, Sega, if you ask an 8 year old kid what those are he wouldnt know, But maybe in only Fairy tales where kids can have fun playing 8-bit and 16-bit games. But in a way our Nostalgic SNES views live on, with the younger kids having one of their first systems being hand-held in a GBA( or GBA-sp)