The State of Nintendo [by Vampyr]

Yoda9864 · 04-02-2004, 02:33 AM

I will admit that I have been pretty much a fanboy of Nintendo ever since the NES. I have argued in school countless times that Nintendo is still the best out there. Usually it seemed that I'm the only one arguing for Nintendo. I couldn't look past my fanboyism to realize that Nintendo is falling.

I can now say that I have moved past my fanboyism considering I am now mainly a PC gamer. Nintendo's games, however, still have a grip on me. They are almost always of the highest quality, and I often borrow friends' consoles so that I can play through Mario Sunshine, Zelda WW, and Metroid Prime. I now realize that Nintendo's games are the only thing that kept me coming back after I decided not to get a Gamecube.

I know this is the reason that many people get Nintendo's systems. Many of my friends complain there are no good games besides Nintendo's. Many have the GC for Nintendo's games and either a PS2 or X-Box for "all the other games."

Nintendo has to realize this soon. The Gamecube is not popular because of it's stellar game library. It's popular for Ninty games. Games released on all the systems are usually better on PS2 and XBox for various reasons anyway. The sooner Ninty realizes this and ducks out of hte console business the better.

The bottom line, Nintendo, is that we will all still love and buy your games even if they are on a different system. Save your money from your failing stance in the console business to develop even more stellar games.

Jonbo298 · 04-02-2004, 02:52 AM

I'm not afraid to admit I only buy games either developed by Nintendo or one of its "sub studios" ie: Silicon Knights, etc...

Hell, I just looked at my collection of GC games I have and the only 3rd party game I have is PSO ep. 1&2. The rest are either Ninty made, or made by one of its studios. The reason why? QUALITY. 3rd pary dev's stray away from the 'Cube because the mainstream gamer buys a PS2 or XBox so they can buy a $50 game that gets $5 worth of fun. Also because they know it won't sell well because of the fact that they either horribly hash the game to the 'Cube or they feel that because a good majority of GC owners aren't as stupid as most 3rd partie's want them to be.

Now although I may be flaming like a fanboy, I'm trying not to. But it is true if you think about it. Hell, if Ninty went 3rd party for some reason, they better stick to making games for 1 company. And IF, and I stress a HUGE IF they ever do go 3rd party, I'd want them to go to MS (even though i despise MS) because of the fact that Sony needs some competition.

A bleak future for gaming is coming upon us. Because Sony and MS think we need 50 things to play games, they will charge more for the console and basically downplay the fact it plays games. Although I may be exaggerating a smidge, look at what Sony is doing with the PSP. "It can play movies, music, walk your dog, feed you.....and play games". Hell, next gen consoles companies are already saying more about the other crap it does besides the fact it plays games. MS/Sony will soon give more details on their consoles and im almost 100% certain they will talk more about the other stuff then the fact it plays games. But you know what...sh*t happens and thats my 2 cents which I'm taking with me

fingersman · 04-03-2004, 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Yoda9864

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Nintendo has to realize this soon. The Gamecube is not popular because of it's stellar game library. It's popular for Ninty games. Games released on all the systems are usually better on PS2 and XBox for various reasons anyway. .

You think that Nintendo doesn't realise this? I think they do realise this, it would be impossible not too, with 3rd party games being cancelled left and right. I don't think it's matter of realising what the situation is, I think it's a matter of formulating the right strategy to combat the situation, which is something that they may or may not have done yet.

Jason1 · 04-03-2004, 01:32 PM

Okay I agree with most of you, but I dont agree on the topic of nintendo dropping out of the Console busniess. I dont want to have to play my Nintendo games on a PS2 or Xbox or anything like that, because Nintendo STILL makes the best systems and controllers. Ive heard so many people bitch about their PS2's breaking, not reading discs, their X'box controllers not working, ect. Hell, just the other night my friend and I were trying to play a little Xbox at his house and the Xbox kept detecting that the one offical controller that he had wasnt plugged in even though it obviously was. Then I was using an interact controller and the right thumb stick seemed really stiff, like it wasnt popped in place so I tried to pop it in place and the damn thing went completley limp. I'll admit that one is interact's fault, not Microsofts, but the whole not reading the controller issue in uncalled for. And I always hear about people who have to go out and buy new PS2's. Nintendo's products, on the other hand, are rock solid and Ive never had one break on me. EVER. Not a controller, not a console, and Ive never even had any disc reading problems, even though my SSB Melee disc is SEIROUSLY scratched up because I dropped it in the van one time and it got walked all over.

Jonbo298 · 04-03-2004, 01:55 PM

The NES we have still works to this day, lol. The SNES does too but I havent played that in quite awhile. My '64 is still beating away and my 'Cube obviously still works

But yeah, I've heard too many stories where people have had to buy another PS2. But oh well. Consumers lose out and Sony is still laughing to the bank

DeathsHand · 04-05-2004, 02:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Jonbo298

The NES we have still works to this day

You are one of the few... a ton of NES get the infamous "Blinking problem" because Nintendo used cheap-ass parts (or so I've heard) and the connector pins wear out too fast...

Of course, that was only their first console, and companies build up experience overtime...... Or I guess you'd think that's the way it'd happen...

The only problem I've had with my Gamecube is one time when Metroid (and only Metroid) would mess up (I can't remember for sure, I think it basically said the game couldn't be read? Or the game was removed or something)... And it only happened on a specific save slot... So I dunno what was up with that...

My PS2 on the other hand did develop one of the problems everyone talks about (Won't read CD-based things... Music CDs, PS1 games, or the few PS2 games made on CDs)... Although more people complained about problems with PS1, and I never had any problems with mine... Guess I just got lucky like Jonbo with his NES

Jonbo298 · 04-05-2004, 11:09 AM

By working, I meant that its still playable. Hell, the infamous blinking occurs here and there, but just do a little trick and its back to working.

Yoda9864 · 04-05-2004, 01:41 AM

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Originally Posted by fingersman

You think that Nintendo doesn't realise this? I think they do realise this, it would be impossible not too, with 3rd party games being cancelled left and right. I don't think it's matter of realising what the situation is, I think it's a matter of formulating the right strategy to combat the situation, which is something that they may or may not have done yet.

I guess I'm more saying that Nintendo should actually do something about it. It would be impossible to not see it. But they didn't do jack schmidt about it for hte GC.

I guess Nintendo can stay in the console business as long as they want as long as they don't get hit hard enough financially that they couldn't go 3rd party. Ninty games must live on!!