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Re: A message to you neocons from a fellow warmonger.
Old 04-29-2004, 08:46 AM   #1
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I can't decide if this is a huge case of looking through rose colored glasses or just ignorance.
If I'm so ignorant for pointing out how comparing Saddam to Bush is just stupid, please explain it to me Oh Great Enlightened One. To this point all you did was criticize with no clarification (like the contrast I actually provided) as to what was wrong with my point or Bond's, as most liberals tend to do when they try and make a point themselves.

And make sure to try and back it up, because you know I'll be going over it with a fine toothed comb.

Jeepnut, there is a an accusation by Bob Woodward in his new book that Bush made an agreement with Saudi Arabia to lower oil prices. Letys not forget that Woodward basically made these assumptions, which they are and he even admitted as much in a print interview, without actually interviewing anyone he accused. Kind of like when he said that Colin Powell vehemently disagreed with everyone and their mother about Bush's stance on the war, without actually ASKING POWELL.

Typhoid, you're continual accusation that Bush is acting like a COMMUNIST power is NOT helping your credibility. Do a little research on the definition of COMMUNISM and FASCISM (Google could help) and then think about it.
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Re: A message to you neocons from a fellow warmonger.
Old 04-29-2004, 11:23 AM   #2
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Jeepnut, there is a an accusation by Bob Woodward in his new book that Bush made an agreement with Saudi Arabia to lower oil prices. Letys not forget that Woodward basically made these assumptions, which they are and he even admitted as much in a print interview, without actually interviewing anyone he accused. Kind of like when he said that Colin Powell vehemently disagreed with everyone and their mother about Bush's stance on the war, without actually ASKING POWELL.
I figured there probably wasn't much truth to it. Common sense just says that that wouldn't be possible. The president just doesn't have that kind of influence.
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Re: A message to you neocons from a fellow warmonger.
Old 04-29-2004, 01:16 PM   #3
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This read is thought provoking, but i disagree with it.

now if bush was killing my neighbors kids, sure I'd like someone to kick some ass and take him out, but he's not so I dont see how you can compare bush/saddam
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Re: A message to you neocons from a fellow warmonger.
Old 04-29-2004, 04:33 PM   #4
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This read is thought provoking, but i disagree with it.

now if bush was killing my neighbors kids, sure I'd like someone to kick some ass and take him out, but he's not so I dont see how you can compare bush/saddam
Thank you. Someone good to see there are a good amount of people here with an ounce of sense.

Jeepnut, a President doesn't have that kind of power, but a businessman does, and the Bush family has done business with many notable Middle Eastern families (Most notably the Bin Laden family, which every liberal tries to use against the Bush's even though Osama has been disassociated with his family for the past 16 years). Of all the rumors about Bush, I actually think this is the most likely, even though there is no real proof behind it. Hell, if I was president I'd try and ink a deal to lower the gas prices as well if it would get me re-elected. Its no different than democrats inking lucrative and often borderline unconstitutional state contracts with Unions for votes (See California Debt).
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Re: A message to you neocons from a fellow warmonger.
Old 04-29-2004, 08:05 PM   #5
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If I'm so ignorant for pointing out how comparing Saddam to Bush is just stupid, please explain it to me Oh Great Enlightened One. To this point all you did was criticize with no clarification (like the contrast I actually provided) as to what was wrong with my point or Bond's, as most liberals tend to do when they try and make a point themselves.

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That could be Margaret Thatcher and Ho Chi Minh or Vincente Fox and Ariel Sharon have the same context. He's simply comparing two leaders
They are (were) both leaders. The fact that Saddam's leadership was based on propaganda and fear or the fact that he's just generally not a nice guy is irrelevant in Brecher's point; which was that when your country is being attacked, you want to defend your leader weather or not you particularly like him.

And whether or not you agree with the allusion or not, it's quite ignorant for you to discount the rest of the article simply because of one allusion. You’re making the same sweeping assumptions that piss you off so much, like when people compare Bush to a chimp. It is not “stupid” to compare George W. Bush and Saddam Hussein the way Gary Brecher did in that article, unless you’re going to try and tell me that one of them was not the leader of his respective country. Though they would be correct in doing so, not everyone who compares bush to something unfavorable is attempting to portray Georgie boy as a sack of ****.

Put your safety back on Bazooka Joe and be careful where you point that thing.
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