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Re: US Media Makes Me Ill
Old 05-06-2004, 07:11 PM   #1
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You shouldn't let yourself get ill over the U.S. media. You just need to remember that it's a job like any other that people do to put food on their tables. Invest your time in something else like solving a math problem that hasn't been solved yet, or dedicate your mind to an area of science that needs more attention.
I would if the media wasn't constantly shaping the opinions of the general population. The media is a very powerful tool, and should be debinked on a regular basis.

Typhoid, Saddam wasn't making a statement against traitors. I have studied this event and have seen the footage of him laughing while smoking a cigar while the names were read. Bath (sp?) Party loyalists were named as well as memebers of other parties. His statement was that he will control you and do what he wants under penalty of death.

And the comment was borderline racist because saying that arabs can't accept democracy and stop fighting one another is the same as saying all blacks like fried chicken and all italians are connected to the mob. It is a gross generalization and an ignorant one at that. Tens of thousands of arabs have left their homelands yearning to get away from the totalitarian regimes that they lived under for years and have managed to live peacefully with not only other muslim sects but Christians as well.

You have to remember that there has never been a true democracy in the Middle East... NEVER. We can't expect people to just sit up and say "Hey! That sounds great! Lets do it even though we have no idea what that is!". You have to expect a good amount of xenophobia, especially in the beginning. Change is frightening.

*realizes he went off on a tangent*

Sorry about that,
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Re: US Media Makes Me Ill
Old 05-06-2004, 07:24 PM   #2
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I would if the media wasn't constantly shaping the opinions of the general population.
That's what I can't stand about the Media too... they shape fals opinions of the general population. When I see some BS on like that I just turn it off, I can't even watch it anymore. I when they drag on and on about certain subjects that are irrelevant then don't give things that matter the time of day.
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Re: US Media Makes Me Ill
Old 05-06-2004, 07:41 PM   #3
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The Strangler...NHF...but i got a totally different thing from what Nitram said. I took it as they have religious differences and wouldnt agree anyways...i dont agree with the dictator ship thing, and can only hope he was trying to be funny..But i agree that the dont and never will get along. The have different beliefs, and are constantly being brought up/raised in the same ways as the past.

Maybe all the Shiites really need is a McDonalds...give them a taste of the western civilization..hoo hoo hoooo..zing
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Re: US Media Makes Me Ill
Old 05-06-2004, 09:01 PM   #4
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Okay my views:

What our soldiers did to them obviously violates the Geneva Convention and shouldnt have happened. Did it surprise me? HELL NO. But it still shouldnt have happened. We're suppoused to be better than that. We dont do those kinds of things. At the same time, I dont theink the soldiers that did it should be punished as much as some might say. I mean if I saw one of them bastards kill one of my friends, I dont know what Id do.
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Old 05-07-2004, 12:04 AM   #5
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Just a quick note, at the moment, I have no access to a TV, and limited access to the internet. I don't get to see much of the news, but from what I've seen...

This is just a political mess. Oh no, an Iraqi had some wires strapped to his hand, God forbid. Unless they actually shocked the guy, they did nothing wrong. Are we honestly going to count-martial soldiers on the account of scaring the enemy? Maybe next time our MPs shouldn't be allowed to point weapons at the enemy, just in case they get scared and think they are going to be shot. You know, why even carry weapons?

And some naked Iraqi with a female around. You know, in the Arabic culture, that is really degrading. Then again, he has a sandbag over his head, he can't anyway.

Someone needs to chew their ass for being stupid enough to take pictures. As for the court-martial, yes, send them to court-martial, tell the media they're being sent to the brig, and the next day get them back on the job. Their only crime was stupidity, and that's a stretch, even for Article 134.
 

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Old 05-07-2004, 12:57 AM   #6
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When you send youg men to a foreign country, you know 100% there are going to be complete idiots. They think that "oh we can do whatever we want because we are Americans and because I'm in the military and think no one will care on what I do".

But if they violated laws, prosecute their asses and get them the hell out of the country. I dont care what country you are, but if your troops violate international laws, you deserve to get bit in the ass.

Strangler, do you ever make a post thats less then 2 paragraphs long?
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Old 05-07-2004, 04:00 PM   #7
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Someone needs to chew their ass for being stupid enough to take pictures.
That is the exact same thing I thought the first time I heard of these things.

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Their only crime was stupidity
Actually, being American and coming in to bring fairness to all aspects of Iraqi life (Saddam tortured his prisoners) kind of makes you look bad if you're going to do something like this and the proceed to take pictures of it.

I never thought the Iraqis captured a chance to be treated fairly anyway. But what's really annoying is the persistence of all the channels, feeling that they need to show these pictures any and every time they get a chance. No wonder they call it the idiot box.
 

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Old 05-07-2004, 03:09 PM   #8
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I don't know how much attention there is for it in the States, but nothing could be enough methinks...

Those people are sick. We western people pretend we're civilized but this shows how good we really are.

Oh, fire the guy responsible, PLEASE.
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