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Old 05-10-2004, 12:42 PM   #1
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Once Americans and "The West" learn to be more tolerant of other cultures, (which should be right around the time the liberals retake control of the United States government) things will be fine.
How exactly would us being more tolerant of their culture make them any more tolerant of ours?
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Re: Worrying About the Future
Old 05-10-2004, 07:01 PM   #2
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How exactly would us being more tolerant of their culture make them any more tolerant of ours?
Excellent point and you beat me to it.

As for those who believe that Muslims will just incorporate themselves into what is in a large part Christian law, what happens when Muslims are empowered by numbers and feel the need to be ruled by what they view as their law and not ours, as was pointed out is already happening in Canada?

What happens id Muslims have their own courts one commits offense against a Christain? What court will that case be decided in? Will the other side respect the decision of the court the case takes place in?

What happens if a Muslim kills a Christian and is let go because he killed an infidel/heretic (and depending on your interpretation of the Quran that is a viable argument)?
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Old 05-10-2004, 07:06 PM   #3
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There shouldnt be laws according to religion, it should be laws according to the country/region you are in.

If your in a Muslim country, then you get muslim laws, Christian country, christian laws etc. etc.
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Old 05-10-2004, 07:08 PM   #4
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There shouldnt be laws according to religion, it should be laws according to the country/region you are in.

If your in a Muslim country, then you get muslim laws, Christian country, christian laws etc. etc.
And what of Muslims eventually out numbering Christians in these "Christian" countries? Laws should be based off of common sense of what's good and bad, not religion.
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Old 05-10-2004, 07:16 PM   #5
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And what of Muslims eventually out numbering Christians in these "Christian" countries? Laws should be based off of common sense of what's good and bad, not religion.
There lies the problem. Notions of common sense and good and bad can vary greatly depending how deeply entrenched you are into Christianity/Islam. Many Muslims find women's rights to be offensive enough that if a women were to walk down a street in Saudi Arabia in a tank top they would be stoned by the populace.

A Christian sense of common sense and right and wrong would find that criminal, while the much more socially conservative Muslim ideals would have little problem with it.

This is where my worries stem from.
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Old 05-10-2004, 07:29 PM   #6
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There lies the problem. Notions of common sense and good and bad can vary greatly depending how deeply entrenched you are into Christianity/Islam. Many Muslims find women's rights to be offensive enough that if a women were to walk down a street in Saudi Arabia in a tank top they would be stoned by the populace.

A Christian sense of common sense and right and wrong would find that criminal, while the much more socially conservative Muslim ideals would have little problem with it.

This is where my worries stem from.
Well I understand what you are saying. Women in Islam can not even have male friends. They are stoned to death for cheating, and you get your hands cut off for stealing.

But... I would think (or hope) that most Muslims become more socially relaxed like we have, and not take their religous laws to the fullest extent. Example... the legalization of gay marriages. It specifically says in the Bible that "God hates that" (referring to gay/lesbians), yet some countries, who are Christian, will still legalize it.

I really don't think that Islam will over throw Christianity, but then again, it's happened in the past, in some places.

Kind of worries me too, I suppose.

I guess we need to start another Crusade. Who's up for it?!
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Old 05-10-2004, 07:55 PM   #7
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Yeah, that worked out so well last time
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