Worrying About the Future

Crono · 05-10-2004, 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Typhoid

I dont want to start another hate forum...but what do you mean "your going to write this off as"? Was i sick the day your was the only opionion that counts? Whay can someone have an opinion without you saying how their views are wrong and illogical? Do like ruining people beliefs? Do you tell little children that there is no Santa, other than the fact that you dont think so?

I have no problem with you or what you say, just the manor you chose to say it in. You make it sound like you know everything.

First of all... telling children that there is no Santa is awesome. It's what Maddox would do. http://maddox.xmission.com

Second of all... opinions are worthless if they are not based off of any facts. I don't know why you don't see this. If "opinions" come randomly out of the head, then they're wrong... yes, wrong. If you have the facts, then you can form an opinion.

And third of all... Uh... yeah.

Typhoid · 05-10-2004, 08:39 PM

So then isnt The Strangler wrong in stating his OPINION on how someone elses OPINION was wrong? ( which is what i was saying)

And yes Maddox is the king...well...pirate king that is...except on april fools day, then he was the Mr. Clean king who loved everyone..

( And Crono..i do know that...read the sig, its been there for a while...)

Crono · 05-10-2004, 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Typhoid

So then isnt The Strangler wrong in stating his OPINION on how someone elses OPINION was wrong? ( which is what i was saying)

And yes Maddox is the king...well...pirate king that is...except on april fools day, then he was the Mr. Clean king who loved everyone..

( And Crono..i do know that...read the sig, its been there for a while...)

Isn't a "view" and an "opinion" the same thing?

Typhoid · 05-10-2004, 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Crono

Isn't a "view" and an "opinion" the same thing?

Semantics my friend....but yes, they probably are...but the sentace wouldnt sound right without one of them in it...

TheGame · 05-11-2004, 11:46 AM

Typhoid, you need to take a philosophy class. There is a such thing as a valid and invalid point... your arguements are not valid because you don't base them off of facts. That doesn't mean you are "wrong" but it does mean that you can and never will come out on top in a debate and you will be made to look wrong by the people who use more facts to back there arguements.

Here's an example:

You are in a room, the room has two sides seperated by prison bars... On one side there is you, the keys to open up the door in the bars, and a gun. On the other side there is your worst enemy, and he is yelling at you that he will kill you the second you open the door and let him through.

"In my opinion you should hand him the gun and unlock the door and let him through, because I think if you do that he may become your best friend and not want to harm you at all."-Mr. Dumass

Is that opinion "wrong"? No... but is it based off of facts? No. Thus making the person who made the opinion sound like a complete idiot. Just think about it.

Professor S · 05-11-2004, 02:07 PM

Typhoid, a basic concept you are having trouble grasping is that there is a difference between having an opinion and having that opinion respected. The lynch pin in having your opinion respected is factual evidence to back it up.

There are many people here who don't agree with me but respect my opinions because I back them up with information and evidence and often times just common sense.

Do you see anyone here getting your back in this argument? That should tell you something.

All I did was ask Stonecutter for some information to back up why he felt that the West was the problem in the relationship between the Middle East and the West. Now there is plenty of information there if he wishes to look it up going back as far as the Crusades or as recent as the founding of Israel. I just wanted to see whether or not he was basing his opinion on political correctness or on actual information.

Now you might wonder I tend to be very blunt when challenging people's opinions, a reason I have kept secret until now...

The answer is simple: I am going to school to become a secondary school teacher and the best way to engage a young mind to tell them they're wrong, because as we all know young people think they are always right. By telling them they are wrong, even if they have a valid point, it inspires further study and gives them a reason to become more involved in the topic.

Just look at how far Dyflon has come before I first began aguing with him. Debating him has become increasingly difficult since I began this strategy, though I can still take him

. Unfortunately that strategy is not working with Typhoid...

Rndm_Perfection · 05-10-2004, 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Crono

And third of all... Uh... yeah.

And third of all... he may not know everything, but by they way he presents his information, it appears he knows more than you. It's your job taking part in the debate to respect that; if you don't, he has no need to respect your opinion.

But, that's not the case here. I think you just missread what he posted, because I couldn't find a relation to what you said and what you quoted.