Zelda GCN Speculation or What You Want to See in the New Zelda Game

[DeathsHand]

I could have sworn when I read that roundtable, the developer talked about how the game will not be called Wind Waker 2, and won't be a remake or a sequel.. hmmm...

"So Mr. Aonuma actually wasn't lying at the Game Developer's Conference when he said we were working on Wind Waker 2. He just didn't tell the whole story. And fortunately because he didn't tell the whole story, we were able to surprise you all here with a big announcement about the series."

That quote makes it sound like it WILL be a sequel to WW, which I think would be neat.. If it skipped ahead a number of years, Link is now grown up, they've already found the new continent and established a few towns, but there's still a lot of exploring to do and what have you...

But I thought I heard it was confirmed to not be a sequel...

Edit: Oh, and another thought... It doesn't even have to be the same link in the game... It could take place generations in the future where there is already a nice established hyrule, and the backstory to the intro could be the story of what happened after WW... So technically it wouldn't be a true sequel to WW... Unless you count WW to be a true sequel to OoT...

[Typhoid]

Isn't it a different Link in every game? Thats what someone told me...but then i got to thinking, how many people in Hyrule are there named Link and Zelda?

[Jonbo298]

When Miyamoto said that they made this zelda more mature because Link is a teenager, it got me thinking. WW was told from the perspective of a kid link. And kids always like bright stuff and whatnot. And now that Link is older, everything is more dark and realistic around him. And tells everything like it is. So this can still be called WW2 because now its a few years later and link is a teen that sees things in a darker way then when he was a kid.

What I just said is speculation since Nintendo has yet to reveal if the new zelda ties in with WW or not.

[Jonbo298]

Originally Posted by Jonbo298

When Miyamoto said that they made this zelda more mature because Link is a teenager, it got me thinking. WW was told from the perspective of a kid link. And kids always like bright stuff and whatnot. And now that Link is older, everything is more dark and realistic around him. And tells everything like it is. So this can still be called WW2 because now its a few years later and link is a teen that sees things in a darker way then when he was a kid.

I'm quoting myself

But I have proof to my speculation on the more realistic look. Q/A in interview http://wham.canoe.ca/gcn/topspot/2004/05/19/465640.html

Wham! Gaming: Are you moving to this more realistic version of Link because it¹s what people wanted, or did you have it mind all along?

Shigeru Miyamoto: Maybe it’s a little bit of both (laughs). When we did Ocarina of Time, obviously that was a game where you started off as a child and matured into an adult. But earlier on when we were developing the game, we started off developing it around an adult Link, and because of that we chose the graphical style we did with Ocarina of Time.
Whereas with Wind Waker, we knew from the get-go that it was going to be entirely a story about Link as a young boy, and with that in mind we thought about the best way to express the story of a young boy, and how we could best create a reality in this world of Zelda using a graphical style. And the decision was that by going with this ‘toon-shading’ style, we can better express a young boy and better show his movements and make a more cohesive, realistic-feeling world.
But at that time, obviously, we still had questions about if we’ve gone with this decision because Link’s a boy, what do we do the next time when we decide to make a game when Link is more grown up, and how are we going to create Link in a cel-shaded style as an adult. After a lot of discussion, what we decided was the best graphical presentation for an adult link was this style.

[Ginkasa]

....What does not wanting Link to speak have to do with racism...?

*referring to -rep that said Link should speak and I should should stop being a racist*




*shrugs and walks away*

[Typhoid]

I was'nt debating that he shouldnt speak...i was stating my opinion, as much as anyother here.
and no, i wasnt confusing communicating with voice acting. The village people should have voice acters, is what i meant to say. And i dont get how in the last sentance im confusing it?? All i said was that Link shouldnt talk, but i could deal with it if Zelda and Gannondorf did.




(And i dont get how thast racist, that was a stupid -repping IMO)

[fingersman]

If the main characters don't talk I don't think the other characters should talk......it would seem unbalanced. Link, Ganon and Zelda can't talk but everybody else in the game can? You either let everyone talk or not. I'm voting for the not.

Hmmmmmm I would like some new items besides the usually ones, not sure what they should be.

And maybe Link can wield atleast 2 other weapons like a staff or two swords and his fight style would change with the weapons. ( imagine pole volting over chasm with a staff )

Also 2 more shields for Link wouldn't be bad. Like a shield that absords physical and magical attacks and sends them back as a projectile. Hmmmmmmmmm I haven't play Zelda in a while is that what the mirror shield does already?

The horseback riding and fighting seems very cool, I saw a shot where link was being chased I wonder if he can do a trick and turn around and shoot arrows and then turn back around and keep riding.

Maybe they will have a big war where Link and some soldiers will have to defend a castle from an invasion. Imagine running through the castle hall helping people and beating enemies senseless.

More use of the environment would be nice, like getting behind a statue and pushing it on enemies. Or slashing a rope and some object falls from the ceiling and smashes somebody.

Oh yeah, it would be great if they made use of a weather system, they should have a weather guy in the main town, that sends you the kind of weather they are going to have every seven days and based on the weather you should be able to unlock certain sidequests.

Neways that's all i can think of for now

[DeathsHand]

Originally Posted by Typhoid

Isn't it a different Link in every game? Thats what someone told me...but then i got to thinking, how many people in Hyrule are there named Link and Zelda?

Weeeelllllll everyone knows the character as Link... But since he's never actually been called Link in any of the recent games themselves, and you can name him whatever you want, the heroes names in the timeline don't necesarily have to be Link... It's just what they use for reference... In OoT it's the "Hero of Time"... In WW, it speaks of a "Hero dressed in green"... No name is given, and you can name him what you want...

Another possibility is mentioned on a timeline site, about how it's like a legend... a prophecy, that a hero specifically named Link will appear to save Hyrule...

As for Zelda, I read somewhere on a timeline site that because of something with the very first rulers of Hyrule, it's a tradition for a princess to be named Zelda... Which sounds like a reasonable explanation to me, with royal traditions and all...

[Dyne]

I said it before in a previous thread, but I want FULL ORCHESTRAL MUSIC. I don't care if Nintendo has to bust their balls doing it. They did it for SSBM just fine. Do it for Zelda!

[Canyarion]

Ok here's my famous button lay-out (some big site even used my C-stick idea):

Left stick: move around like you do in Oot, TWW....
C-stick: swing your sword (with this function you can run and swing at the same time and do the coolest sword moves)
L: jump (yes, jump)
R: defense, with different levels of shielding: a quick sword defense, a quick shield defense, a 2 handed shield defense and finally the click: a magical shield
A: use item
D-pad: select out of 4 items
the other buttons: dunno, rolls perhaps, stuff like that. Action button (for a hop on your horse..).

Yeah I agree with Dyne, Nintendo has GREAT tunes, but in game, they only use the simple versions.

[Ginkasa]

There's not a different Link or Zelda in EVERY game, but most of them. It was the same Link in LoZ and AoL, but different Zeldas. Same Link in ALttP and LA. Same Link and Zelda (for her short cameo) in OoT and MM. Same Link and Zelda in OoA and OoS. Same Link and Zelda in the FS games.

Same Link, possibly same Zelda, in WW and Zelda GCN? It would make sense. It follows the "two game"procedure that Nintendo seems to be following.

And the whole thing about the people being called the same thing depends on whether you believe in a complete storyline or not. If you do, its because of either

A) Destiny (all the heros and princesses that have to deal with Ganon [who is the same guy] are called Link and Zelda)
B) When the original Zelda was put in an enternal sleep (not death, since it could be lifted as shown in AoL), the prince at that time (she had a brother!) decreed that the daughters (at least the first daughters) born in the royal family would be called Zelda.
C) Continuity

Or, if you think the series is like Final Fantasy with no overall storyline:

Just C.


*shrugs and walks away*

[Dark Samurai]

A map just as big as the whole ocean of WW.

The voice acting part.

Random Weather Patterns.

A faster Epona.

A new version of Link, like Deity Link in MM.

A better stronger, faster, harder, better final boss. <-- haha

and a love scene between Link and Zelda.

Edit: One more thing, as much weapons and magic, like in OoT.

[Ginkasa]

Originally Posted by Dark Samurai

and a love scene between Link and Zelda.

Or not. A romance between Zelda and Link would never work with Link out adventuring and Zelda being in distress and all. There would be no time for them to fall in love so the romance would seem forced.

And it would be completely unnecessary. Whether Link loves Zelda or not, we know he's going to save her. Whether Zelda loves Link or not, we know she's going to confide and trust in Link to save Hyrule.

It would serve no purpose except to please people who can't seem to get their mind across the idea that not all female/male interactions have be in the interest of love or "I want in your pants."

I also think a massive Final Fantasy type story would not be good either. I don't think the Zelda storylines need to get anymore complex than what we've seen in WW and MM. Zelda has always had the focus more on gameplay than story, there's no need for it to change. Not every game has to be Metal Gear Solid.


*shrugs and walks away*

[BlueFire]

I'd like this game to be very long. A very large explorable environment. A great story (the Zelda series could actually use it :P).. more difficulty, more engaging dungeons... huge towns to explore..
I'll think of more later

[Jonbo298]

Yeah. We need alot more dungeons and a much lenghtier gameplay. Along with (as samurai mentioned) a better final boss. Make it a little more difficult. Give Ganon different stages you have to beat similar to how OoT did it.