Ps2 phr33ks...

[Perfect Stu]

I'm a big Sony supporter...but everyone knows that.

As a casual gamer, from 1989-2000, I was a Nintendo fan. NES, SNES, N64. Never owned a playstation, but I bought a PS2 at launch. The system keeps getting better...+1 Sony. I have a nice big Sony TV now. It's fantastic. +1 Sony. They've improved their first and second party software development 10-fold since the PSone days. +1 Sony. My original PS2 is still chugging along at over 3.5 years of age, I've owned (at one point or another) probably 30-40 PS2 titles, and Ive thouroughly enjoyed a very high percentage of them.

Their jump into the online market has been above par as far as I'm concerned, and their style, ambition and marketing look to keep them on top for years to come.

So yeah, I'm a big Sony supporter...but everyone knows that.

[Crash]

i like nintendo because of this:

it has family games. i like these kinda games. same reason i like family movies. they are my favorite kind.

games i concider family games:

SSBM
Mario
Luigi's mansion
Super monkey ball

movies I concider family movies:

Lord of the rings
spiderman
disney movies

the reason i think that is because there is not a whole lot of blood sex and gratuotous violence.

ps2 isn't real good about making family games. they are good at making games pretty much exclusively for the older gamer, and while i like that, i only enjoy it in moderation. (sony and microsoft throw it all at you at once)

i like the ds, i will buy it over the psp, even inspite of the graphical "shortcomings" not because i'm a fanboy, but because the ds has mario.

I loved my ps1, and i liked my ps2. but i love my gamecube and like my xbox (still only really play halo on it)

[Typhoid]

I will say that i will stand by my PS2 until the end. Not to say i hate any other console, i just prefer PS2. There is just more framiliarity in the buttons, and the controller setup is so easy, and again, not pickin on other systems here...Although it did feel like hugging a grizzly bear when i played on an XBOX controller..( penny-arcade)

[MuGen]

right... between PSX, PSone, PS2, and the PSP... the controller design is basically the same thing.

the xbox's controller (not to bash, but to point out) is just... way too big....

the gamecube's controller is just.... not user friendly... it doesn't have a easy layout... all the buttons are disorganized. Nintendo's best button layout was SNES, and the NES...and maybe the n64's controller... cuz I liked holding it in the middle sometimes...

[edit] pay attention to the market and you'll see many family games for ps2...

Ratchet and Clank
Jak and Daxter
Spyro
DDRMAX-my mom plays occassionally for the work out.
Sly Cooper
just to name a few...

[Dark Samurai]

PSXCUBE... never mind...

I used to like the PS2 controller but then it just kept on slipping when I was playing with friends, the GC controller is nice and comfortable, but I agree with rasengan, the buttons are disorganized, but once you get used to it, you'll see why its a good controller, and I dont even want to get in the X-Box but I will anyway. The X-Box controller maybe big but you'll (eventually) get used to it, the smaller version is ok I guess.

Let me ask you guys a question that rasengan and I have been arguing abou: Do you think that Sony took the idea for the controller from Nintendo? SNES controller setup was stolen from Nintendo, and was put into the PS controller. That why I think that Nintendo was forced to change their setup of the N64 controller. What do you guys think?

[MuGen]

well... lemme present what I think of this....

the SNES has A B X Y then two shoulder buttons, R and L...and a one-part D pad...

The original PS has... X, Box, Triangle, Square, 4 Shoulder buttons...

it's a possibility that Sony may have been inspired to use shoulder buttons only because what else would you use your middle and index finger for.... its there and you can put more features in a game with a console with more buttons, and not hard to reach buttons too.

But keep in mind NES was like the first console... a classic one, and it basically paved the way with controller design...

So would it be fair to say Xbox stole the design of their controller from a mix of PS and Nintendo with Analog like Sony controllers, Shoulder buttons like Nintendo, black and white to serve as the Z button for Nintendo and such?

All controllers have their own distinctive layout and it's not fair to say anyone stole from Nintendo because Nintendo was the first console probably all of us bought...

Playstation's original controller also had grip stems on the right and left, the original SNES was a rounded rectangle...

[Typhoid]

The thing isnt who made the controlers and who made them first. Its the layout and the convienience of the controllers.
Like the origional XBOX controllers...well, they sucked ass..but the smaller ones are way better, and a little more orgonized. I think Nintendo is just trying to be different with their controller styles. like the N64 had that 3-pronged controller thing, which was surprisingly comfortable to hold, and then the GC ones, well, IMO they are just too strange...

And i think the reason why the XBOX contollers were so big at first is because they were mainly supposed to be for older people (not kids, obviously), or maybe it was a ploy to make people buy extra controllers and spend more money when the smaller ones came out.


EDIT: ya...Nintendo made their biggest threat...Sony....

[Null]

Originally Posted by Dark Samurai

Let me ask you guys a question that rasengan and I have been arguing abou: Do you think that Sony took the idea for the controller from Nintendo? SNES controller setup was stolen from Nintendo, and was put into the PS controller. That why I think that Nintendo was forced to change their setup of the N64 controller. What do you guys think?

its not what you think. thats a fact man.

Its not a secret, the Playstation was going to be a CD addon for the SNES, hence the controller design, when nintendo and sony broke on the idea. Sony kept the basic layout and added to it. (VERY smart on thier part)

nintendo wasnt forced to change anything.

[MuGen]

i didnt know that... so sony started out as a partner company helping nintendo, then just broke it off and decided to make money off their little technological venture....

heh... coolio's I didn't know that...

[Crash]

Originally Posted by rasengan

[edit] pay attention to the market and you'll see many family games for ps2...

Ratchet and Clank
Jak and Daxter
Spyro
DDRMAX-my mom plays occassionally for the work out.
Sly Cooper
just to name a few...

R & C, J & D are geared towards the older audience, you dont see that with the badass additude, sarcasm, and occasional PG-13 lingo? I know what youre saying, i just disagree.

[MuGen]

being geared towards older audience doesn't mean it's not played by younger kids, and such.

besides.. there are a lot more family oriented games I've failed to mention, and I'm not going to go through all the trouble to list them all.

Sports games are great family games too... it doesn't HAVE to be Mario and Luigi all the time. lol

[bobcat]

I'm a Nintendo fanboy ?

I love my gcn/ps2, don't really like my xbox.

I love Nintendo's games basically.

Don't tease me............please