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[Typhoid]

This is the first time ive ever agreed with you Strangler.



And Crono, I didnt mean people with petty problems use weed to solve their problems. Open your mind a little. I have an example.

My friend who is 24 never knew his dad because he left him when he was a child, and his mom commited suicide. Now surely according to you, he should kill himself, because, well, lets face it, he smokes weed. Thats the answer everyone, let all severely depressed stoners kill themselves, then and then only will i be happy.


And i think they should sell it in stores, such as cigarettes, and alcohol. I feel most peple do it to rebel, now im not saying legalizing it will make everyone stop, but it will free up our courts of stupid cases of a teen with a joint on him.

Weed doesnt make you stupider,It impares you for the short term, but only while your high. Much as alcohol, that doesnt necesarily make you stupider, except when your drunk.
Ex. My dad has been smoking weed for a number of years now ( since the 60's) and he went to University for years to study to be a computer systems technician or analyst. He used to be the manager of all the power in the vancouver area for B.C. Hydro. But now his part was bought out by Accenture business services, and now he is a Systems manager of Half of B.C.'s power ( along with a few other guys)

Now surely, if it made you stupider, he would always be veging out on the couch, but no, he holds a good job with good pay.



Anyways, sadly think the Conservatives will win the election, which will suck, because they will probably do to Canada what Campbell did to B.C. Which is cut jobs and make stupid laws and things like that.


In Canada now, if you have 3 grams of weed ( i think) you just get a fine, im prettys sure of, and its small. Opposed to the U.S. where its like tons of years, which is retarted.

[Crono]

Originally Posted by Typhoid

My friend who is 24 never knew his dad because he left him when he was a child, and his mom commited suicide. Now surely according to you, he should kill himself, because, well, lets face it, he smokes weed. Thats the answer everyone, let all severely depressed stoners kill themselves, then and then only will i be happy.

Does he "just smoke weed" or is he a hardcore stoner?

Either they kill themselves or they face up to their problems. People bitch about everything bad in their life yet you don't see them doing anything about it. It's isn't my problem that he has no parents, I don't see why we should legalize weed just so people like him can go to the store and buy it, just to become not depressed for a brief time.

I'm sorry if it sounds harsh, but that is just my opinion of low-life stoners (or any low life drug addict). If you have to resort to drugs, get your ass to the ****ing mental hospital so you can re-enter society as someone who is worth something to someone.

And i think they should sell it in stores, such as cigarettes, and alcohol. I feel most peple do it to rebel, now im not saying legalizing it will make everyone stop, but it will free up our courts of stupid cases of a teen with a joint on him.

Well I agree with you there. The only reason why people do drugs (aside from addiction) is to be cool. Why? Because that's what the big shot rappers and wiggers do on TV. Rap culture has taught us it's ok to be in gangs and to do drugs. Kids are stupid these days, they'll listen to what music and tv tells them to do. Pitiful.

And, if it was legalized, yes, I do think age limits should be set and anyone who tries to sell it to younger ones get's my foot in their ass (aka let's say... a 2000 dollar fine, possibly more).

Weed doesnt make you stupider,It impares you for the short term, but only while your high. Much as alcohol, that doesnt necesarily make you stupider, except when your drunk.
Ex. My dad has been smoking weed for a number of years now ( since the 60's) and he went to University for years to study to be a computer systems technician or analyst. He used to be the manager of all the power in the vancouver area for B.C. Hydro. But now his part was bought out by Accenture business services, and now he is a Systems manager of Half of B.C.'s power ( along with a few other guys)
Now surely, if it made you stupider, he would always be veging out on the couch, but no, he holds a good job with good pay.

I am glad to hear that your Dad has a good job. However, it is a fact that weed/alcohol/whatever slowly deteriorates brain cells. This also depends on how often you do it, and what volume is consumed. There are numerous factors. I mean if you smoke a lot of weed a day in the end you are going to be right ****ed in the head.

I'll be honest, I'll drink with my friends. But it is not daily excessive drinking. It's casual. On the other hand, "casual" weed smoking wouldn't be too bad, but still, I would hate to hear the cheers of victory of the hardcore stoners at my school, I would be depressed myself.

[Professor S]

Crono, there are hardcore drinkers and weed smokers much as there are casual drinkers and weed smokers. I work in a bar and its downright sad to see what alcohol has done to some of these people, but then again they are in the minority, much like the hardcore/addict weed smokers are. In fact, its my opinion that those we refer to as weed addicts are more addicted to the culture of weed than to the actual drug. Think about it. Crack addicts need to smoke crack everyday, but you don't see them growing dreadlocks, wearing ponchos, cut offs and flip flops, following Phish across the country and spraying pachulli stink all over themselves.

In fact, when ABUSED, alcohol is FAR more damaging to the human body than weed. It causes permanent loss of brain cells, unlike weed (studies done on marijuana cite than THC actually blocks receptors in the brain, but when use subsides these blockages dissappear over time. The time it takes corresponds with the amount/length of time the drug has been smoked.) And while weed when consumed through smoke does give the chance of causing cancer, a far shorter length of abuse of alcohol is much more likely to cause liver cancer and sclerhosis (sp?). A woman I worked with abused alcohol for 4 years, abuse meaning daily consumption of several drinks to the point of intoxication, joined AA and even went to rehab, and got liver cancer 9 years after being clean and sober.

In the end we are splitting hairs. The main point behind all of this is hypocrisy. Weed is illegal and sucks billions of our tax dollars down the drain while alcohol is legal and makes our countries tax revenue while it is more detrimental to our bodies.

Legalize it, regulate it through the state (like they do in PA with alcohol where it can only be purchased in state run stores), and tax the crap out of it. Plus, think of all the drug related crime that will be stopped. This is a win/win senario from whatever angle you look at it from.

In case you are wondering where I am getting all this information, it is coming from two places: Two psychology classes I took in college that dealt with the effects of drugs and alcohol on the function of the brain and a great documentary I recently saw on the Sundance Channel called Weed... no I'm not joking

[Typhoid]

Crono, my dad smokes like, alot of weed every day, ask Dylflon.

And I dont know about Canada, i dont think it sucks tons of money out of our system, if anything it puts some in. Becaus i know for some of the grow-ops they uncover, they sell the weed for huge profit to hospitals.

I dont think weed should be treated any differently than Alcohol or cigarettes, like i previously said, because they all affect you in the same basic way, except one is shunned only because....well....you know what, i have no idea why cigarettes are legal and weed isnt to tell you the truth.


And i find it strange that a thread about Canadian government turned into a heated debate over weed.



EDIT: OK, im starting to lose patience with stoners, my dad just ate all my cookies.

[Crono]

Well, regardless, my opinion of people who actually smoke weed and the drug itself will never change. I despise people who abuse any kind of drugs.

But you're right, if legalized, we can tax the hell out of it. I mean, if people want it that bad, then they can pay the government for it. And if they complain, they can suck on it. Everytime the price of cigarettes goes up in Canada I just sit back and laugh. If weed is legalized, I hope they do the same (by consistently raising it's price).

[Professor S]

Crono, if you've ever drank alcohol to the point of being drunk, you have abused drugs. Alcohol is a drug.

Don't be so quick to give out judgement on others. Everything is relative.

Physician, heal thy self.

[Vampyr]

Originally Posted by Crono

Well, regardless, my opinion of people who actually smoke weed and the drug itself will never change. I despise people who abuse any kind of drugs.

But you're right, if legalized, we can tax the hell out of it. I mean, if people want it that bad, then they can pay the government for it. And if they complain, they can suck on it. Everytime the price of cigarettes goes up in Canada I just sit back and laugh. If weed is legalized, I hope they do the same (by consistently raising it's price).

I agree 100% with you. I dont smoke, drink, or put anything else into my body that could harm it. I may drink some day, but it will only be casually and not very often at all. Almost always for a celebration of some sort. Because I stick to what I have always said before: Drunk people are stupid. I dont want to degrade myself to act in a way I will regret later. Drunk people embarras themselves, and I'm too proud to do that. If it was for a celebration, and I was with friends who I knew very well and trusted, I wouldnt mind so much.

Here recently where I live, cigarett prices have been getting kind of high, and I have heard that in other regions of the USA, they are even more costly. I love hearing that. If people are going to kill themselves, I want them to give as much money to our government to help me out before they die of lung cancer or whatever.

I think it's a good idea to legalize pot (because people are going to find a way to get it anyway), but once it's legal, they should charge a lot for it, and tax the heck out of it.

But I'm not canadian, so my opinion doesnt really matter in this thread, but speaking in a general sort of way: I think it's a good idea if they charge a lot for it, and tax it a lot.

Speaking of drinking and alcohol: It's not legal to sell it in the county I live in. We are considered a "dry" county. I find this incredibly stupid. All the drunks and people in my county that want to drink are going to get alcohol. They'll just go to another county and spend their money there to get it. I dont understand why they dont just make us a wet county, that way at least the money stays here.