$500 PS3 a Possibility

[Typhoid]

Originally Posted by Null

and the difference is......



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one plays games, one doesnt.

didnt see that one comin did ya? heheh

No but i mean, why have a game system that can play games and record tv, and play DVD's, and not do the same to the other two? it kind of makes them obsolete dont you think?

Because if you buy the system that has all of them, you dont need to buy the other ones.

[Acebot44]

Non gamers wouldnt want to pay extra so that they could have the ability to play games on their DVD player when they just want to watch movies.

[gekko]

Originally Posted by Acebot44

Non gamers wouldnt want to pay extra so that they could have the ability to play games on their DVD player when they just want to watch movies.

And gamers wouldn't want to pay extra so that they could watch movies on their game console when they just want to play games.

[DarkMaster]

If Nintendo had a electronic media section of their company, I can guarantee you that the Nintendo consoles would include all these extra devices. If your company also makes other form of electronic entertainment, then yeah you're going to include them with your next big multi million dollar world wide selling video game console. It's all part of marketing and company product development.

Yeah, PS2 has DVD playback, because Sony makes DVD players, big surprise. Microsoft is a computer company, the Xbox comes with a built in hard drive and dvd player, so what? These things are to be expected. Company finacial analyist know that 95% of people who play video games also watch and enjoy movies, music, etc. They want to make the most of their system. If they made it just like Nintendo's system...well then it would be just like Nintendo's system. Direct competition isn't always wanted. It's the same with the PSP and the DS, they're different, they're aimed towards different types of people. Get what you want, enjoy them for what they are.

[Vampyr]

Originally Posted by Rasengan

packing for a vacation, your not bringing your entertainment center with you.

But I'm not going to bring my PS2 either, even if it does have all that extra stuff...when I go on vacation, it is to get away from everything at home. I take only clothes and money with me. (and a gameboy to play on the way to wherever i'm going). My PS2 and GCN have never left my house. Period.

Originally Posted by Gekko

I'd have to argue Microsoft is the only company with half a brain as of late.

Well...we have different stances on backwards compatability.

What Darkmaster said does make sense though...which is exactly why I'll get the Nintendo next gen system and nothing else.

[MuGen]

Discussions like these go in circles and it's getting tedious.

All I know is, I like the versatility of next-gen consoles. Microsoft and Sony are doing good things with their systems.

Sure you might have a DVD player at home, or TiVo. But we all know that in crunch time packing for a vacation, your not bringing your entertainment center with you.

$500 seems a bit high for PS3. But who knows.... maybe when the PS3 comes out everyone will have high paying jobs and the economy will be sky rocketing... HEHEHE

[Null]

Originally Posted by Typhoid

No but i mean, why have a game system that can play games and record tv, and play DVD's, and not do the same to the other two? it kind of makes them obsolete dont you think?

Because if you buy the system that has all of them, you dont need to buy the other ones.

kinda talking in circles.

movies and tv are something most every gamer users.

games are not something most every movie watcher uses.

And for some consoles, that are already using a DVD drive for media, adding DVD playback is not costing much and just makes sence.
what the hell would be the point to use a DVD drive and take away its ability to play movies? xbox and PS2 did not go out of thier way to add DVD playback. it was there already basically.

tivo is another matter, it might have something to do witht he hard drive tho and its prolly more like tivo ability not really the tivo brand.

the ability to use tivo style things is cheap. i can download free ones and run em on my PC just like a Tivo would work.

As long as they're not going out of thier way and adding stuff just to add it and tack on money to the overall cost. who the hell really cares?

[Jonbo298]

You have to figure this, to include tivo like functions, you have to include a hard drive. At least a 40 gig hard drive but most likely gonna have to be larger. Right now an 80 gig goes for about 60-75 depending on brand. That will probably go down in the next year but still, thats more money tacked on to include it. Along with everything else they want to cram in it along with what MS is doing, consoles aren't gonna be cheap at first UNLESS there is a lite version. Without it, people won't buy into it at first because price is probably gonna be an issue.

But I'm not gonna worry too much right now. E3 2005 is when most of this info. will be concrete or at least more realistic

[tarakan69]

Originally Posted by Jonbo298

But I'm not gonna worry too much right now. E3 2005 is when most of this info. will be concrete or at least more realistic

Too true...

[Null]

Originally Posted by Jonbo298

You have to figure this, to include tivo like functions, you have to include a hard drive. At least a 40 gig hard drive but most likely gonna have to be larger. Right now an 80 gig goes for about 60-75 depending on brand. That will probably go down in the next year but still, thats more money tacked on to include it. Along with everything else they want to cram in it along with what MS is doing, consoles aren't gonna be cheap at first UNLESS there is a lite version. Without it, people won't buy into it at first because price is probably gonna be an issue.

But I'm not gonna worry too much right now. E3 2005 is when most of this info. will be concrete or at least more realistic

bigger the hard drive the better, i dont agree with adding tivo funtions (prolly cuz i already own one) but the hard drive thing is a bad example. a bigger hard drive would help even more with gaming.

[Jonbo298]

I never said anything bad about a hard drive being bad for gaming. I was just expressing the cost it would increase on the console for a larger HD.

And if Nintendo did the same thing where they threw in 50 things, of which 49 I use SPARINGLY, then I would either wait for a lite version or wait for a few price drops since I don't want to blow my money on features I won't use much at all. I'm not trying to look fanboyish to Nintendo, but they are the only ones so far that hasn't said they want to throw in things to make their "All in one entertainment machines".

[Null]

Originally Posted by Jonbo298

I never said anything bad about a hard drive being bad for gaming. I was just expressing the cost it would increase on the console for a larger HD.

And if Nintendo did the same thing where they threw in 50 things, of which 49 I use SPARINGLY, then I would either wait for a lite version or wait for a few price drops since I don't want to blow my money on features I won't use much at all. I'm not trying to look fanboyish to Nintendo, but they are the only ones so far that hasn't said they want to throw in things to make their "All in one entertainment machines".

but thats saying that thoes extra features would cost a lot. much of the time thats not the case. sometimes they just throw it in cuz the console is able to do it. not because they want to make it do a bunch of extra things.

at launch, i garentee you the PS2 woulda costed the same as it did even without DVD playback.

[Jonbo298]

Originally Posted by Null

at launch, i garentee you the PS2 woulda costed the same as it did even without DVD playback.

Without DVD movie playback, the price wouldn't be much different anyways because the console can already read DVD's so the price wouldn't have been much different anyways.