Why not vote Bush?

[Jason1]

After looking at how bush and kerry view different topics, its even more apparent why I like Kerry better.

Especailly in 2 key topics: Abortion and Guns

Kerry is pro abortion, and anti-guns, and so am I.

Also, Kerry wants to repeal the tax cuts that were given to the wealthy. Thats A ok in my book.

[Dylflon]

What's the problem with gay people adopting children?

[Neo]

Originally Posted by Dylflon

What's the problem with gay people adopting children?

In an ideal society nothing, but children of gay parents would be ridiculed to no end by their classmates. Kids can be very cruel. Children of gay parents would probably end up needing intense psychotherapy with heavy medications.

[Ace195]

(Incase your wondering TRICARE is the health provider for the entire military) Adding this to the military ticket would get so many more supporters and then they would never have to bring the draft back.

John Kerry has voted against pay raises for our troops at least 21 different times

So saying that he's going to do it and actually doing it are 2 diffrent things

John Kerry voted against the $87 billion to support our men and women in uniform. The $87 billion included funds for body armor, meal allowance, and hazard pay among others

If you see the IBA then you'll know it neets better shoulder protection and side protection.. and he voted against it :WTF:


This was on john kerry's website..

“The Bush Administration decided to put politics above public health by withholding tens of millions of dollars that could help prevent needless deaths of mothers, infants and children. Presidential leadership is necessary to stabilize and rebuild troubled regions of the developing world, and to promote the rights and well-being of parents, children and families around the globe. As President, I will restore U.S. funding to the United Nations Population Fund and reassert America's leadership in the fight for women’s health both at home and around the world.”

Originally Posted by Jonbo298

And in '04, now that I can vote, I'm going for Kerry because I can't stand Bush. He's running the country's debt deeper because we had to go after Sadaam using basically only our money. I'm not trying to say Sadaam is good or anything, but I hate the fact that Bush basically said "F*ck you UN, we're going alone" and then afterwards expects countries to just show their undying support to us.

Wow just running the debt deeper like kerry wanted... Notice a Trend. But insted of just giving money to the UN Bush took a dictator out of power..

[Professor S]

I'm not going to quote everything here, but I'll put down some points that jumped out at me:

1) Kerry will increase the number of troops and increase their pay and benefits. If you believe this, you're a complete friggin' moron. Sorry, but you are. Kerry's voting record contradicts this in every way imaginable. He's voted to cut spending in every area of national defense he had the opportunity to. There is no way that a Kerry presidency will increase troops in the middle east or increase benefits and salaries WITHOUT cutting the number of personnel. Remember I said this when Kerry wins, and yes, he will win unless Bush gets Osama.

2) Cutting tax breaks for the rich. Man, its a damn shame that we have let liberals program our nation for class warfare. Listen to me very cafrefully here... RICH PEOPLE ARE GOOD FOR THE NATION. THEY PAY YOUR, MINE AND YOU PARENTS SALARIES. WITHOUT RICH PEOPLE, YOU WOULD STARVE IN A CAPATALIST SOCIETY. We demonize Enron, and rightfully so, and then apply that stereotype on every corporation, no matter how many SUV's they put in our driveways. Wake up.

3) People love to say we should have let the UN help. Please explain to me exactly what the UN hasn't botched in the last 10 years. Oil for Food? LOL. Rwanda? LOL. Bosnia? LOL. Yeah, lets trust them.

[Jonbo298]

I think by now we know Strangler that you hate the UN. I know that somethings didn't go as planned or something along those lines. But when you tell a "league of nations" the UN (that your on) F*ck you, we are going alone, it rings a bell to the other countries. They start thinking differently about the US. If any other country in the UN told them "Screw you, we are gonna fight that country without your support" other countries would look at that country, laugh, and never give support because they never requested support. But with Bush ya know, he goes alone and then says "Please send us troops even though we basically gave you all the finger back then"

[Bond]

Originally Posted by Jonbo298

I know that somethings didn't go as planned or something along those lines.

What are you talking about?

F*ck you, we are going alone

No, there is and was a coalition of thirity-two countries.

Let's find a new issue other than Iraq to mindlessly argue about, ok?

[Rumpelstilzchen]

Originally Posted by Jonbo298

I think by now we know Strangler that you hate the UN. I know that somethings didn't go as planned or something along those lines. But when you tell a "league of nations" the UN (that your on) F*ck you, we are going alone, it rings a bell to the other countries. They start thinking differently about the US. If any other country in the UN told them "Screw you, we are gonna fight that country without your support" other countries would look at that country, laugh, and never give support because they never requested support. But with Bush ya know, he goes alone and then says "Please send us troops even though we basically gave you all the finger back then"

There's a closed-minded person. You're looking at the issue from one perspective. Might I suggest you take a second to see the other perspective?

- "We're going to do what the UN was designed to do, and actually aim to help the condition of the world. Who's with us?"
- "Go **** yourself, US. We're not interested. We like the condition of the Middle East... it was good ever since World War I, when we screwed it up in the first place."
- "That's not right at all... somebody's gotta do it, and I'm not going to let the inadequacy of my shipmates keep me from docking on this plan to refurbish the East in the Middle."


There's a fine line between knowing whether it was the UN that betrayed the United States, or the United States that betrayed the UN.
That line, sadly and apparently, is Conservative or Liberal. And by God, we did "Liberate" Iraq.

[gekko]

Originally Posted by Jason1

Kerry is pro abortion, and anti-guns, and so am I.

You need to be shot.

As for the whole WMD thing, was it exaggerated? Yes. Did it need to be? Yes, because Americans are so ****ing dense. False intel was a result of pulling CIA agents out of the middle east in 1994. Wait a second, who was in office in 2004? Was that fellow Democrat Bill Clinton? Thank him.

Personally, I wouldn't vote for Bush, but even you liberals haven't named any of the good reasons not to vote for him. But since there's not a better candidate than Bush, I will vote for him. The last thing I would do is try to ruin a country by voting for an anti-military **** during a time when the country is fighting a war on two fronts, and facing increased security threats. Voting for Kerry just because he's not Bush is just ****ing stupid. Vote for the better candidate, and Kerry is a dumb ****.

[Jonbo298]

I named my reasons. I guess people overlook my replies

[Typhoid]

Gekko, i was under the impression that acording to CNN and all the other "credible" news sources that the war was over, so i doubt a war is still being fought.


And Gekko, why should Jason be shot?

Because hes pro-abortion and anti-guns?

Thats a good reason to shoot somebody.

Well, Gekko ae you anti-abortion and pro-guns?

Man, you should be shot.

And of course you only quoted half of what he said.

He also said hes voting for Kerry because he wants to repeal the tax cuts that were given to the wealthy.

He never said he was voting for him because he wasnt Bush.

[Neo]

As long as we're talking about shooting people, there's a guy by the name of Ralph Nader who could use a good slug embedded in the brain.

[Dylflon]

Originally Posted by Neo

As long as we're talking about shooting people, there's a guy by the name of Ralph Nader who could use a good slug embedded in the brain.

Agreed. He pulls votes away from the democratic candidate.

[Bond]

Originally Posted by Typhoid

And of course you only quoted half of what he said.

You quoted 1/13th of what I said in a previous post. Not that I care, but it's not something to bring up in an argument.