Japan legalizes stem cell research!

[manasecret]

Originally Posted by Typhoid

I honestly dont really see what all the fuss is about. Same with cloning people, i dont get why thats wrong.

But i say good on you Japan, good on you. May you pave the way for science.

My philosophy knowledge is slim to none, but if you're cloning yourself just to kill the clone and take organs you need in order to live longer, I think that's obviously wrong. If cloning is considered ok, then any clone has as much right to live as any normal born.

[Typhoid]

Originally Posted by manasecret

My philosophy knowledge is slim to none, but if you're cloning yourself just to kill the clone and take organs you need in order to live longer, I think that's obviously wrong. If cloning is considered ok, then any clone has as much right to live as any normal born.

Cloning and stem cell-ing ( if its a word) are different things, are they not?

Cloning is making another human being with the same DNA as a pre-existing human being.

Stem cells are for repairing people, youre not killing a clone, your taking embryos. Last time i checked, embryos arnt people.

[manasecret]

Originally Posted by Typhoid

Cloning and stem cell-ing ( if its a word) are different things, are they not?

Cloning is making another human being with the same DNA as a pre-existing human being.

Stem cells are for repairing people, youre not killing a clone, your taking embryos. Last time i checked, embryos arnt people.

Yes, in essence they are completely different.

You can get stem cells from cloned embryos, but there are far more issues about cloning than simply collecting stem cells. And there are far more issues about collecting stem cells than simply getting them from cloned embryos, if you catch my meaning.

As for embryos not being people, depends on who you ask. But by current U.S. law, embryos are not legally people (except after a certain amount of time and/or other technicalities).

That's why I think stem cell research will eventually be legalized. The law about embryos not being people isn't going to backtrack that far; abortion isn't going to be made illegal.

Which I agree with abortion being legal. Woman's rights are as important as unborn baby's rights. It's an unfortunate circumstance with the rights of one crossing another's.

[Typhoid]

Originally Posted by manasecret

Which I agree with abortion being legal.

Whats this? But wait....

Originally Posted by manasecret

I believe it's wrong. I'm against abortion.

Make up your mind and dont cantradict yourself so you can hold a propor position in an argument.


I know i know.

[Crash]

the last thing the world needs, is to have people live even longer than they are... people are already living 30 years longer than they were 40 years ago....


talk about over population!

[Jonbo298]

Originally Posted by Crash

the last thing the world needs, is to have people live even longer than they are... people are already living 30 years longer than they were 40 years ago....


talk about over population!

But in 30-40 years we will be in hover cars and taking daily trips to the moon and harvesting mars

[Dylflon]

Beleiving abortion should be legal and not liking abortion are two completely different things.

[GameMaster]

From a scientific standpoint, I think this is exciting news.

As far as moral controversy, I think it probably is wrong but I don't object because we're raising millions of chickens and cows in little farms just to kill the for food. And that's wrong in my opinion. Raising animals just to kill them. And don't even try to argue that we need those farms because humans don't need beef or chicken to live. So as long as we continue to breed animals just for consumption, I say go ahead and bring on the human breeding.

[bobcat]

Originally Posted by GameMaster

From a scientific standpoint, I think this is exciting news.

As far as moral controversy, I think it probably is wrong but I don't object because we're raising millions of chickens and cows in little farms just to kill the for food. And that's wrong in my opinion. Raising animals just to kill them. And don't even try to argue that we need those farms because humans don't need beef or chicken to live. So as long as we continue to breed animals just for consumption, I say go ahead and bring on the human breeding.

point taken and a good 1 @ that

[manasecret]

Originally Posted by GameMaster

From a scientific standpoint, I think this is exciting news.

As far as moral controversy, I think it probably is wrong but I don't object because we're raising millions of chickens and cows in little farms just to kill the for food. And that's wrong in my opinion. Raising animals just to kill them. And don't even try to argue that we need those farms because humans don't need beef or chicken to live. So as long as we continue to breed animals just for consumption, I say go ahead and bring on the human breeding.

So cannibalism should be legal? Farming humans for organs should be legal? How far are you willing to take that argument?

[manasecret]

Originally Posted by Typhoid

Make up your mind and dont cantradict yourself so you can hold a propor position in an argument.


I know i know.

Originally Posted by Dylflon

Beleiving abortion should be legal and not liking abortion are two completely different things.

Thank you, Dylflon. Typhoid, piss up a rope.