Russian Kids in Big Trouble

Crash · 09-01-2004, 12:31 PM

well the article says secondary school, which is high school *shrugs*

mickydaniels · 09-01-2004, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Crash

well the article says secondary school, which is high school *shrugs*

I thought that was understood by all, already.

Grades 1-8, primary school since they used to be in the same school until the mid 1900's
and

grades 9-12, secondary school.

They use the same distinctions here, too.

Canyarion · 09-01-2004, 01:07 PM

That's just sick......
I really don't understand why Russia doesn't let them have their country!

Crono · 09-01-2004, 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Canyarion

That's just sick......
I really don't understand why Russia doesn't let them have their country!

Well, Chechnya also invaded a neighbouring Russian republic called Dagestan. If the Chechens attacked another Russian republic, why should they be deserving of their own land?

And would you want a country to be controlled by Islamic terrorists? More of the reason to keep it in the federation.

mickydaniels · 09-01-2004, 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Canyarion

That's just sick......
I really don't understand why Russia doesn't let them have their country!

Do we really need another Eastern European nation?
Perhaps what you should ask is why can't they just live together?

Fox 6 · 09-01-2004, 02:16 PM

I'm not defending the terrorists or anything but russia went into Chechnya in 1994 to make them part of russia.

Crono · 09-01-2004, 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Fox 6

I'm not defending the terrorists or anything but russia went into Chechnya in 1994 to make them part of russia.

Chechnya has been part of Russia for nearly a century. The Chechens wanted freedom from the USSR, but when it collapsed in 1991 the Russians made it part of their federation, and not one of the newly formed states.

They proclaimed freedom but Russia ignored them.

It was the Chechens who started this by invading a neighbouring Russian territory called Dagestan.

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Originally Posted by mickydaniels

Do we really need another Eastern European nation?

I don't want to be a smart ass, but.. Chechnya is not in Eastern Europe. It is in the Caucus, which is directly north of Turkey and Iran. Other countries located in the area is Georgia, Armenia, and Azerbaijan. If I'm not mistaken it is considered Asia Minor, or Southwest Asia.

Aside from that, a number of the former communist countries in Eastern Europe are slowly recovering (Poland, Czech Republic have already improved a lot since 1991). So even if it was in East Europe, what are you implying?

Typhoid · 09-01-2004, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by mickydaniels

I thought that was understood by all, already.

Grades 1-8, primary school since they used to be in the same school until the mid 1900's
and

grades 9-12, secondary school.

They use the same distinctions here, too.

I didnt read the article, i heard it on the radio, i guess the guy messed up. My mistake.

GameMaster · 09-01-2004, 03:47 PM

It's a great strategy, cold and heartless, but powerful nonetheless. With all those children it's going to be hard for Russia not to negotiate. They have a lot on the line if they decide to be tough and just ignore the requests.

Professor S · 09-01-2004, 04:00 PM

It doesn't matter. You DO NOT negotiate. Not one concession. Not one word. The only way to convince terrorists that these tactics will not work is by not allowing them to work. If you give them ANYTHING, it will only encourage more terrorist acts such as this.

Is that a harsh stance? Yes, and a difficult one too, but its the only way to handle the situation without creating even more problems.

Look at Spain. One train bombing and their whole society caved in to the pressure and what was a close race became a blow out. Do you think that didn't encourage the terrorists to try even more attacks like that one? They affected the ELECTION PROCESS of another nation, so they most likely will try and do it again.

Yugi Starwind · 09-01-2004, 05:23 PM

that's just sad and sick. my dad's going to russia in a few days..i hpe he's okay whilst there..and i think he's going to moscow, too!

Happydude · 09-01-2004, 07:51 PM

stupid people...can't they all just get along, the terrorists don't understand that whoever was captured and is now in jail got there because of what they, and exactly what these guys are doing now, how stupid do you have to be to not realize what you are doing....they want to be their own counrty...WHY?! i don't see a point, it would be much easier and much less of a hastle if they stayed with the federation.

Canyarion · 09-02-2004, 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Yugi Starwind

that's just sad and sick. my dad's going to russia in a few days..i hpe he's okay whilst there..and i think he's going to moscow, too!

This drama is not in Moscow.....

And Happydude, I think the Chechens are being discriminated by the Russians, I'm not sure about that.

I don't want to judge on the situation because I don't totally understand it....