The Republican Convention

[Professor S]

The girlie-man remark was more in response to all the reduculous criticism he's received for another girlie-man remark he made about trying to make hard changes in the Californian economy. People have even gone so far as to call him a homophobe and anti-gay, when in fact he's probably one of the most moderate republicans and for gay rights as part of his platform (I'm not positive about this, but its what I heard).

[Bond]

Wow, what an awesome convention. All of the primetime speeches were great: McCain, Giuliani, Arnold, Zell Miller, and President Bush.

Part of Arnold's speech:

"If you believe that government should be accountable to the people, not the people to the government...then you are a Republican! If you believe a person should be treated as an individual, not as a member of an interest group... then you are a Republican! If you believe your family knows how to spend your money better than the government does... then you are a Republican! If you believe our educational system should be held accountable for the progress of our children ... then you are a Republican! If you believe this country, not the United Nations, is the best hope of democracy in the world ... then you are a Republican! And, ladies and gentlemen ...if you believe we must be fierce and relentless and terminate terrorism ... then you are a Republican!"

[Dylflon]

How was Zell's speach great? He was freaking insane. Not to mention after his speech he told that guy from the Hardball show that he wished he could challenge him to a duel. Do you really want this guy representing your party?

[Jonbo298]

Now Now Dylflon...*goes quiet for a few seconds* I challenge you to a duel!

[Professor S]

Originally Posted by Dylflon

How was Zell's speach great? He was freaking insane. Not to mention after his speech he told that guy from the Hardball show that he wished he could challenge him to a duel. Do you really want this guy representing your party?

Zell's speech was great because he had the most impassioned speech and he was a member of the opposing party who spoke for Clinton just 12 years earlier. You can also ignore every point he made about Kerry's voting record if you like by talking about him being "insane", but then you're just grabbing at straws and looking for something to criticize because you realize the points he made were correct. In essence he showed how Kerry pretty much votes and supports anything he thinks is popular at the time.

Case in point: Kerry has said time and time again how he would have had the US miltary have better equipment and how every should have had body armor... yet he's voted against almost every single defense spending initiative while a Congressman and against body armor in particular. You can't have it both ways.

I thought Bush was in trouble before the conventions, but between the Republican convention and Edward's borderline silly "Two America's" speech that turned off a lot of moderates, I think this election won't even be that close.

As for challenging for a duel, I think we all know he was using hyperbole to drive a point home. Don't try and make it into something that its not.

[Typhoid]

But in a sense, cant you just omit, or give less credability what he said?

Because hes a Democrat, yet he stood there like a Republican saying Democrats are wrong and Republicans are better. And you say Kerry flip-flops.

[Jonbo298]

I think Arnold's one-liners and odd choice of words was borderline silly also

[Classic Rocker]

Political parites have been blown way out of proportion. It does nothing but divide the country. It has some benfits, but the whole Republican vs Democrat thing has gone far enough. None of these candiates are talking about bringing major changes. They just want there moment of the limelight. I want results. I want action to be taken. I don't care about policy. Lets just do what we need to do to ensure our nation succeeds.

Just my rant.

[Typhoid]

Is Zell Miller not a registered Democrat?


And he said something about having respect for the men and women in uniform, how they are higher above other people because they are defending America and stuff. ( talking about the soldiers.) But was Kerry not in the Vietnam war?

I kind of think the political system in the US is all messed up.

You only have 2 main parties.

2 Parties cant speak for the majority of a country, so you get these severe arguments all the time. And everything is either "Democrat" or "Republican" or "Liberal". It seems that they only want to help the people who back them. And im talking every party.


EDIT: Oops, i didnt mean to quote that...no idea how i didnt notice.

[Bond]

Arnold is a Republican, what are you talking about?