What religion are you?

[Typhoid]

Let me ask you this. ( Not directed at one person, its a general question)



Since Jesus' birth, how many other emaculate conceptions have there been?


Whats the chance of an emaculate conception ever happening?

0%.

You know why.

Because you cannot have a god damn emaculate conception.

You need sperm. Its called Science. And dont "Scinece doesnt explain everything" me. Because it does.

And dont "What about the missing link" me either. Because bones decay, its a fact of carbon compounds.

And what about Dinosaurs, if they never existed ( as said in some religions) why are their bones here?
Keriann told me God put them there for us to study.
But why would God want us to study something that never freakin' existed!?!?

[Crono]

Originally Posted by Typhoid

Let me ask you this. ( Not directed at one person, its a general question)



Since Jesus' birth, how many other emaculate conceptions have there been?


Whats the chance of an emaculate conception ever happening?

0%.

You know why.

Because you cannot have a god damn emaculate conception.

You need sperm. Its called Science. And dont "Scinece doesnt explain everything" me. Because it does.

And dont "What about the missing link" me either. Because bones decay, its a fact of carbon compounds.

And what about Dinosaurs, if they never existed ( as said in some religions) why are their bones here?
Keriann told me God put them there for us to study.
But why would God want us to study something that never freakin' existed!?!?

This is what I think happened:

Joseph was the real birth father. There was indeed a man named Jesus. He did many great things for people at the time... bUT... his stories were blown out of proportion. I do not believe he healed anyone by simply touching them, however, there were other ways to help these people. Keep in mind the writers of the Bible lived centuries ago, obviously they did not know what exactly happened. Everything was just word of mouth, and people back then were pretty dumb.

As for Jesus being the son of a God, that's where I start to question Christianity in general.

And as for dinosaurs, I do not deny the fact that they existed. I mean, if we've got the remains... then it's pretty damned real.

[Jason1]

Im Roman Catholic, but Im not exactly an active member...im lucky if I get to church once a month.

[jeepnut]

Roman Catholic by birth and by choice.

I would like to spend some time discussing the Catholic faith, but I'm not feeling up to it right now. As with most religions, there is much missunderstanding among those who do not practice it. Maybe we need a thread devoted to dispelling these missunderstandings?

[mickydaniels]

Originally Posted by Typhoid

Let me ask you this. ( Not directed at one person, its a general question)



Since Jesus' birth, how many other emaculate conceptions have there been?


Whats the chance of an emaculate conception ever happening?

0%.

You know why.

Yes, I do know why. Let's look it up in a dictionary.
mir·a·cle
n.
An event that appears inexplicable by the laws of nature and so is held to be supernatural in origin or an act of God: “Miracles are spontaneous, they cannot be summoned, but come of themselves” (Katherine Anne Porter).

Originally Posted by Typhoid

Because you cannot have a god damn emaculate conception.

You need sperm. Its called Science. And dont "Scinece doesnt explain everything" me. Because it does.

Originally Posted by Typhoid

And dont "What about the missing link" me either. Because bones decay, its a fact of carbon compounds.

And what about Dinosaurs, if they never existed ( as said in some religions) why are their bones here?
Keriann told me God put them there for us to study.
But why would God want us to study something that never freakin' existed!?!?

If their bones are here, then they obviously existed.

[Typhoid]

Riddle me this then.

Originally Posted by Typhoid

Let me ask you this. ( Not directed at one person, its a general question)

Since Jesus' birth, how many other emaculate conceptions have there been?

[mickydaniels]

How many immaculate conceptions?
ZERO.

And your point is?

[Professor S]

Typhoid, you are seriously out of your depth here. By your statements you do not have a working knowledge of religion and you aren't sounding very intelligent right now. Don't take this as an attack, I'm just trying to help you out here so you can maybe do some damage control.

Here's where your flaw lies...

You're arguing science against faith. Faith defies science, so there is no point in arguing between the two. You're arguing about sperm, which is a pretty mundane subject when faith tells you that the ethereal being GOD came down and conceived a child on Earth with a mortal woman. Translation: No sperm is needed, as he's FRIGGIN' GOD. If you can create the universe in seven days, you can knock up a chick without banging her.

Therefore, to a person of faith, your arguements are downright silly and have little to do with anything.

[Canyarion]

Bah I hate it when religions downgrade the bible.

[Blade Runner]

Eh, Typhoid, are you saying the God that created the universe we live in and the science you keep referring to can't produce an immaculate conception?

BTW, I think I remember reading somewhere that the reason it had to be immaculate was because Jesus needed to be perfect. Men are sinners by nature therefore Jesus couldn't come from the seed of man.

EDIT: What religions say dinosaurs never existed??

[Canyarion]

It's The Dúnadan!!!! Nice to see you!

Off topic: I'm the only 'old' Tolkien fan left here!

Do you really think people would have bought it when they saw that those writers exaggerated the stories about Jesus?? What's told in the bible, really happened there. And what about all the prophecies about him??
It's not easy to deny that Jesus was the promised messiah..

[Typhoid]

Originally Posted by Blade Runner

Eh, Typhoid, are you saying the God that created the universe we live in and the science you keep referring to can't produce an immaculate conception?

BTW, I think I remember reading somewhere that the reason it had to be immaculate was because Jesus needed to be perfect. Men are sinners by nature therefore Jesus couldn't come from the seed of man.

EDIT: What religions say dinosaurs never existed??

Im not saying God created the universe. Where did I say i beleive in any god?

And the faith that says Dinosaurs never exist is Evangelist. Me and Keriann had many an argument over it.

Originally Posted by mickydaniels

How many immaculate conceptions?
ZERO.

Exactly.

Originally Posted by The Strangler

Therefore, to a person of faith, your arguements are downright silly and have little to do with anything.

And to me, a scientific person, religious arguments are silly and have little to do with anything.

Its all perception Strangler, and you like to constantly single me out other than the other side.
You forgot to mention that to a scientific person, religion is silly, but of course, you again, in so many words, say my points arnt valid.

But + reps for this time not saying its because im canadian.

[Kitana85]

Originally Posted by The Strangler

You're arguing science against faith. Faith defies science, so there is no point in arguing between the two. You're arguing about sperm, which is a pretty mundane subject when faith tells you that the ethereal being GOD came down and conceived a child on Earth with a mortal woman. Translation: No sperm is needed, as he's FRIGGIN' GOD. If you can create the universe in seven days, you can knock up a chick without banging her.

Therefore, to a person of faith, your arguements are downright silly and have little to do with anything.

That, and the Immaulate Conception was the birth of MARY not the birth of Jesus. The Immaculate Conception is the idea thought of my bored theologans that says that because Christ Jesus was without sin his mother must not carry original sin. The (the Immaculate Conception) is clearly not the same as the Virgin birth.

People can say they are taking it literally, but they can't be, because 1. this isn't the same bible that was written oh so many thousands of years ago, 2. Its impossible to talk about a story and not interpret... that's exactly what interpretaiton means-reading a story and figuring out what it means

[Joeiss]

About dinosaur fossils:

Most people don't realize that in terms of numbers of fossils 95% of the fossil record consists of shallow marine organisms such as corals and shellfish. Within the remaining 5%, 95% are all the algae and plant/tree fossils, including the vegetation that now makes up the trillions of tonnes of coal, and all the other invertebrate fossils including the insects. Thus the vertebrates (fish, amphibians, reptiles, birds and mammals) together make up very little of the fossil record -- in fact, 5% of 5%, which is a mere 0.25% of the entire fossil record. So comparatively speaking there are very, very few amphibian, reptile, bird and mammal fossils, yet so much is often made of them. For example, the number of dinosaur skeletons in all the world's museums (both public and university) totals only about 2,100. Furthermore, of this 0.25% of the fossil record which is vertebrates, only 1% of that 0.25% (or 0.0025%) are vertebrate fossils that consist of more than a single bone! For example, there's only one Stegosaurus skull that has been found, and many of the horse species are each represented by only one specimen of one tooth!


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