What religion are you?

[Crash]

yes, the reason I made this thread was to find out the various religions and how serious you guys take it. pretty serious I guess, the thread is growing.

I asked about the mormon church because I'm concidering joining it. please dont make this an anti-mormon thread (moderators, help out here).... I'm pleasantly surprised to find out that Cam (and I guess Kami and kids) are mormon. heh.

[Professor S]

Camfu's MORMON? And in the MILITARY? Thats one hard-ass Mormon

Welcome back!

[The Duggler]

Originally Posted by TheGame

If you don't know somthing is the truth, you don't know it is the truth, period. What one calls the "Logical closest thing to the truth" could be completly wrong... you chose to believe its the closest thing to the truth because of your faith in science.

Ok, maybe "believe" wasn't the word I should have used. The only thing that I would believe would have to be the absolute truth, and because we will never have that (anyways not in a close future) then I will have to say that I don't believe anything. Now when I look to science I would have to say that it make a lot of sense but there is always a BUT. But you, you think and say that religion must be it, it's like you have the absolute truth, and that is not right at all.

The only thing a person knows for a fact is their own feelings and emotions. After that there is no facts. Its all what you chose to believe. If it isn't a fact, and you believe it without constantly questioning it, you have faith...

Feelings are fact? What about feelings changed by certain drugs? Are they still fact? Or feelings changed by something else like lies or anything else? See? Feelings are as misleading as anything else.

In my opinion, "based on judgement on experiences and proofs", I think it is more logical that there is a god. In your opinion, you think that it isn't logical... You can't prove me wrong, nor can you prove you are right. Just like I can't prove you are wrong and can't prove that I am right. The only person that matters in this situation is me though... I have proven to myself that it is right. (And if I told you how chances are you wouldn't believe me.)

Try me. Tell me about those proofs. We'll see.

[TheGame]

"Feelings are fact? What about feelings changed by certain drugs? Are they still fact? Or feelings changed by something else like lies or anything else? See? Feelings are as misleading as anything else."

Yep, they are a fact. Look back on your past feelings, how you felt at the time is how you felt at the time, period. Nobody can tell you that dog **** tastes good, if you tasted it and hated it. Your personal feelings are your own. Does that mean they can't change? Nope. You can eat dog **** tomorrow and love it, that doesn't mean you didn't hate it before. Feelings can be misleading, but it is still how you felt or feel...

Ok, maybe "believe" wasn't the word I should have used. The only thing that I would believe would have to be the absolute truth, and because we will never have that (anyways not in a close future) then I will have to say that I don't believe anything. Now when I look to science I would have to say that it make a lot of sense but there is always a BUT. But you, you think and say that religion must be it, it's like you have the absolute truth, and that is not right at all.

I'll believe that it is the absolute truth until proven otherwise. You would think in this advanced society at least one person could have stepped up with "proof" by now that God doesn't exist... but guess what? Hasn't happend yet.

You still have faith in science, faith in them to find an answer that they won't find. You chose to trust one source, I chose to trust another. You will never have absolute truth if you don't believe in anything. It would take a time machine.

Try me. Tell me about those proofs. We'll see.

My proofs are my proofs... you may not see them the same way as me. You'd be like "luck" "coincedence" or maybe simply say I'm insane. There is no need for me to go into any detail on it with you.

I'm off to class now.

[TheSlyMoogle]

Originally Posted by TheGame

You would think in this advanced society at least one person could have stepped up with "proof" by now that God doesn't exist... but guess what? Hasn't happend yet.

You would think in this advanced society that someone would have come forth with "Proof" that god exists, but this also hasn't happened.

Continued lack of proof either way has lead me to believe that God probably doesn't exist.

If God does exist, he probably doesn't care about us anyway. Seriously, do you think some being of omnipotent power cares about anything that goes on in your life?

[Crash]

Originally Posted by TheSlyMoogle

If God does exist, he probably doesn't care about us anyway. Seriously, do you think some being of omnipotent power cares about anything that goes on in your life?

this is how today's children are growing up? LOL

to each his own i guess

[TheSlyMoogle]

Originally Posted by Crash

this is how today's children are growing up? LOL

to each his own i guess

Well I would like to think if I was an omnipotent being I wouldn't be spending my life playing around with peoples lives.

If there is a god, if he created us, and he did everything, I'm sure he has moved on by now.

Also I'm sure God is genderless, and I just say he because I don't feel like typing God everytime.

[TheGame]

Originally Posted by TheSlyMoogle

You would think in this advanced society that someone would have come forth with "Proof" that god exists, but this also hasn't happened.

You are right, it hasn't happend because any proof given is dismissed as being invalid or coincedence. But certain people don't see it that way... "proof" is out there, its your choice to accept it or not.

Continued lack of proof either way has lead me to believe that God probably doesn't exist.

And it leads me to believe he does exist. Growing up I didn't have a choice but to follow, and the more I learn about science the stronger my faith gets...

If God does exist, he probably doesn't care about us anyway. Seriously, do you think some being of omnipotent power cares about anything that goes on in your life?

Yep.

[Canyarion]

God has it's reasons for not interfering with us.
He lets Satan try and proof that mankind is better off without God.

He'll act real soon though, making this world a paradise again. With people on it that did what he asked of us. So if you want to look beyond your short life, consider studying the bible...

[TheSlyMoogle]

I'm not here to argue about it...

Gah...

We're two extremes with two different beliefs.

None of us will win or lose.

So this argument has no point.

Furthermore, for future reference, there is no "proof" out there no matter how hard you look.

[Typhoid]

I know there is no god.

Proof came to me last night when i heard on the radio they found a severely burned body in Creston.

What kind of god would kill a man who did nothing?

What kind of god would kill a man who loved everyone around him?

What kind of god would kill a man who just wanted love from his mother?

What kind of god would kill a man so slowly and painfully?

Dont tell me there is a god, for i no longer belive in anything.

[Canyarion]

First of all: my condolences.

Ok then. But ask yourself, did GOD kill that man??? ("no, cause he doesn't exist" )

Hells Angels killed him. Not God. God has its reasons for not interfering with mankind... yet.

Just because bad stuff happens, doesn't mean there's no god.
w00ps, I said it. Sorry...

God can give you comfort. He can and will ressurect the dead. Patience...

[Joeiss]

God didn't kill that man.

[Crash]

God gave man free agency. That means man can do whatever he wants, so when bad things happen, it's man's fault not God's.

It was just time for that man to return to his Father in Heaven, that is all.

[Joeiss]

Originally Posted by Crash

It was just time for that man to return to his Father in Heaven, that is all.

Yes, and now he is in a place that is so much better than here.