What religion are you?

[TheGame]

"Feelings are fact? What about feelings changed by certain drugs? Are they still fact? Or feelings changed by something else like lies or anything else? See? Feelings are as misleading as anything else."

Yep, they are a fact. Look back on your past feelings, how you felt at the time is how you felt at the time, period. Nobody can tell you that dog **** tastes good, if you tasted it and hated it. Your personal feelings are your own. Does that mean they can't change? Nope. You can eat dog **** tomorrow and love it, that doesn't mean you didn't hate it before. Feelings can be misleading, but it is still how you felt or feel...

Ok, maybe "believe" wasn't the word I should have used. The only thing that I would believe would have to be the absolute truth, and because we will never have that (anyways not in a close future) then I will have to say that I don't believe anything. Now when I look to science I would have to say that it make a lot of sense but there is always a BUT. But you, you think and say that religion must be it, it's like you have the absolute truth, and that is not right at all.

I'll believe that it is the absolute truth until proven otherwise. You would think in this advanced society at least one person could have stepped up with "proof" by now that God doesn't exist... but guess what? Hasn't happend yet.

You still have faith in science, faith in them to find an answer that they won't find. You chose to trust one source, I chose to trust another. You will never have absolute truth if you don't believe in anything. It would take a time machine.

Try me. Tell me about those proofs. We'll see.

My proofs are my proofs... you may not see them the same way as me. You'd be like "luck" "coincedence" or maybe simply say I'm insane. There is no need for me to go into any detail on it with you.

I'm off to class now.

[TheSlyMoogle]

Originally Posted by TheGame

You would think in this advanced society at least one person could have stepped up with "proof" by now that God doesn't exist... but guess what? Hasn't happend yet.

You would think in this advanced society that someone would have come forth with "Proof" that god exists, but this also hasn't happened.

Continued lack of proof either way has lead me to believe that God probably doesn't exist.

If God does exist, he probably doesn't care about us anyway. Seriously, do you think some being of omnipotent power cares about anything that goes on in your life?

[Crash]

Originally Posted by TheSlyMoogle

If God does exist, he probably doesn't care about us anyway. Seriously, do you think some being of omnipotent power cares about anything that goes on in your life?

this is how today's children are growing up? LOL

to each his own i guess

[TheSlyMoogle]

Originally Posted by Crash

this is how today's children are growing up? LOL

to each his own i guess

Well I would like to think if I was an omnipotent being I wouldn't be spending my life playing around with peoples lives.

If there is a god, if he created us, and he did everything, I'm sure he has moved on by now.

Also I'm sure God is genderless, and I just say he because I don't feel like typing God everytime.

[TheGame]

Originally Posted by TheSlyMoogle

You would think in this advanced society that someone would have come forth with "Proof" that god exists, but this also hasn't happened.

You are right, it hasn't happend because any proof given is dismissed as being invalid or coincedence. But certain people don't see it that way... "proof" is out there, its your choice to accept it or not.

Continued lack of proof either way has lead me to believe that God probably doesn't exist.

And it leads me to believe he does exist. Growing up I didn't have a choice but to follow, and the more I learn about science the stronger my faith gets...

If God does exist, he probably doesn't care about us anyway. Seriously, do you think some being of omnipotent power cares about anything that goes on in your life?

Yep.

[Canyarion]

God has it's reasons for not interfering with us.
He lets Satan try and proof that mankind is better off without God.

He'll act real soon though, making this world a paradise again. With people on it that did what he asked of us. So if you want to look beyond your short life, consider studying the bible...

[TheSlyMoogle]

I'm not here to argue about it...

Gah...

We're two extremes with two different beliefs.

None of us will win or lose.

So this argument has no point.

Furthermore, for future reference, there is no "proof" out there no matter how hard you look.

[Typhoid]

I know there is no god.

Proof came to me last night when i heard on the radio they found a severely burned body in Creston.

What kind of god would kill a man who did nothing?

What kind of god would kill a man who loved everyone around him?

What kind of god would kill a man who just wanted love from his mother?

What kind of god would kill a man so slowly and painfully?

Dont tell me there is a god, for i no longer belive in anything.

[Canyarion]

First of all: my condolences.

Ok then. But ask yourself, did GOD kill that man??? ("no, cause he doesn't exist" )

Hells Angels killed him. Not God. God has its reasons for not interfering with mankind... yet.

Just because bad stuff happens, doesn't mean there's no god.
w00ps, I said it. Sorry...

God can give you comfort. He can and will ressurect the dead. Patience...

[TheGame]

Originally Posted by Typhoid

I know there is no god.

Proof came to me last night when i heard on the radio they found a severely burned body in Creston.

What kind of god would kill a man who did nothing?

What kind of god would kill a man who loved everyone around him?

What kind of god would kill a man who just wanted love from his mother?

What kind of god would kill a man so slowly and painfully?

Dont tell me there is a god, for i no longer belive in anything.

The punishment for sin is death. If that man was without sin, he wouldn't have died (Which is impossible because thanks to our grandparents and satan we are born in sin.). Nobody is that innocent except Jesus himself, and he died for our sins, not his own. As for god's intentions, he gave us Jesus... that alone tells if he cares or not.

Now, a better question to ask is why do people who never get the chance to know him die. That's a question I can't answer. But I guess if he cares enough to try and save us sinful people, he cares enough to save the people who don't have access to him on the earth. How? *shrug*

[CamFu]

Originally Posted by TheSlyMoogle

None of us will win or lose.

So this argument has no point.

Everything depends on how you look at it. Yes, I agree that none of us will win or lose. For the main reason that you can't put your emotion into a post (Smiley's don't count), that is why none of us will win or lose. But I don't agree that this argument has no point. Because you don't think it has a point, doesn't mean there isn't one there.

One big point that I see when religious discussions are made is to see how open minded people are. If somebody doesn't believe in god, I want to see if they are able to open their mind to understand why we believe in God. And if you do believe in God, I want to see if that person can actually see a world without a God.

Ontop of that, you also learn a lot about a person from their beliefs. Believe in God or don't. No matter which one, the desicions that are made in your life are done by beliefs that you hold.

Originally Posted by Typhoid

What kind of god would kill a man who did nothing?

What kind of god would kill a man who loved everyone around him?

What kind of god would kill a man who just wanted love from his mother?

What kind of god would kill a man so slowly and painfully?

I'm going to agree with what Crash, Joeiss, and Canyarion has said, but I'm going to expand on what Crash wrote.

Typhoid, it's good that you are questioning things that are happening around the world, even the things we don't want to see. But I think you are going about it in the wrong way, and please don't take offense to this. How much have you looked into your questions? Have you tried to answer them yourself, or with somebody else? That is what free will is all about. Even though you don't believe in God, I believe he let you make that choice. He even gave you the choice to question him.

One last thing, don't ask questions that you might not like the answers to. Remember, just keep an open mind... if you chose to get the answers to the questions that you asked.