10 year ban on assault weapons ends

[Typhoid]

Originally Posted by playa_playa

Listen, guns are NECESSARY in some cases; especially handguns. Do you want to tell a single mom who commutes through a gang-ridden downtown street to do so without protecting herself with a firearm?

But you see, if guns were illegal, it would be harder for those gang members to have guns. Meaning they would have to try and conceal a baseball bat.

If guns are illegal, that means nobody woul dhave them. You just need stricter gun laws.

The only reason you would need a gun to protect yourself is because someone is shooting at you with a gun.
And where did they get that gun? At the gun store.
And how did they get it? Because its legal.
If you make guns illegal, shootings will go down, its a proven fact.

Gang crime will go down, because like i said, you cant conceal a baseball bat.

And are the cops gonna belive that 20 guys dressed in colours are going to a game of baseball at 1 am? No, i dont think so.

Its easy to get rid of guns. Make gun laws stricter. I mean come on, you guys get jail time for having weed, but not guns. Guns kill people, weed just makes you stupid.

Make having a gun like a 10 year sentance. Not for shooting a gun, just for having it. Unless it is proven it is for hunting reasons.

EDIT: But who am I to say guns should be illegal, my brother-ish friend was just shot and burned to death, thats all.

And no, im not trying to use that to my advantage in this conversation.

Guns = Violence. Yes, a baseball bat can too, but baseball bats dont fire little balls of iron or lead at your face. You have to walk up to someone to smash-em with a bat, unless you can throw little chunks of the bat at like 600 mp/h. with deadly aim, then were in trouble.

[playa_playa]

Originally Posted by Typhoid

But you see, if guns were illegal, it would be harder for those gang members to have guns. Meaning they would have to try and conceal a baseball bat.

If guns are illegal, that means nobody woul dhave them. You just need stricter gun laws.

Are you even serious? If guns were illegal, it would be harder for gang member to have guns? Are you implying that criminals purchase guns from actual cerified vendors who run background checks, fill out paperwork and make you pay tax? Or would they just buy illegal, untraceable guns (meaning the serial number has been removed) from the black market?

Guns = Violence

Yes, in many many cases. But if the criminal aggressor ends up on the receiving end of a justifiable violence in the act of a self-defense by a 19 year-old female college student, I'm more than satisfied. In fact, the girl just did the society a favor.

[Crono]

Making guns illegal or legal won't make a difference in gun related crimes. People will still get them illegally, like playa said.

What you need is a more strict justice system. Make a person afraid to commit a crime, and the crimes will stop.

[Typhoid]

Originally Posted by Crono

What you need is a more strict justice system. Make a person afraid to commit a crime, and the crimes will stop.

Originally Posted by Typhoid

Make having a gun like a 10 year sentance. Not for shooting a gun, just for having it. Unless it is proven it is for hunting reasons.

agreed.

[jeepnut]

Originally Posted by Crono

Making guns illegal or legal won't make a difference in gun related crimes. People will still get them illegally, like playa said.

What you need is a more strict justice system. Make a person afraid to commit a crime, and the crimes will stop.

You think someone thinks about what will happen if they are caught when committing a crime? No, you wouldn't do it if you did or if you didn't think you could get away with it.

[Crono]

Originally Posted by jeepnut

You think someone thinks about what will happen if they are caught when committing a crime? No, you wouldn't do it if you did or if you didn't think you could get away with it.

They would think twice if the punishments were severe. Even if they didn't, the severe punishment would still stand. If you shoot someone, you deserve to be shot. If I ran a country, there wouldn't be any crime, there wouldn't be any gangs... I'd use Russian style policing to make them scared ****less of doing anything bad.