What religion are you? - Page 11

The Germanator · 09-23-2004, 12:16 AM

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Originally Posted by GameMaster

We're not against you, Sean, we just want you to experience the same glory and peace in your life as we do in ours through the power of God's almighty care and love. All you have to do is put your faith in him.

It's the only way the feelings of sadness, despair, and lonliness you feel will go away. Medicine can't replicate God's love.

You sound like those damned Jehovah's that come to my door every month.

Joeiss · 09-23-2004, 12:17 AM

"If I save a busload of childrens lives, I wont go to heaven because i didnt do it for God?"

No. If you are a non-believer, you will not go to heaven. If you believe in God, you will.

If you are a non believer, you still did a great thing, but it is meaningless. Christians live their lives to go to heaven for eternity. I am not sure if you understand that. So everything that we do should be done for our faith.

Typhoid · 09-23-2004, 12:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Joeiss

"If I save a busload of childrens lives, I wont go to heaven because i didnt do it for God?"

No. If you are a non-believer, you will not go to heaven. If you believe in God, you will.

If you are a non believer, you still did a great thing, but it is meaningless. Christians live their lives to go to heaven for eternity. I am not sure if you understand that. So everything that we do should be done for our faith.

Do you take a big steamy sh*t every morning in Gods name?

Have you ever had pre-marital sex for God? (Totally forget which religions that is for)

I understand where you come from and what your saying, i justhate it when people seem to push their religion, or religious beliefs upon me. I know nobody is directing them at me...well....except GM in his last post. But its no big deal.

I just dont get the idea of devoting your life to something.

But i revert back to what i said, religion is geographical.

If any of us grew up in the Middle East, we would be Muslim, (most likely) If we grew up in Utah, we would be Mormon, if we grew up in Japan we would be Shintoists.

How many American born, white Shintoists do you see?

How many Asian born Muslims are there?

9And yes, I am singling out certain religions, because these are the only ones that came to my head.)

GameMaster · 09-23-2004, 01:06 AM

Dearest Sean, you are missing the stress of our proclamations.

It is not WHAT you do for God, but rather WHY you do for God.

We serve God in appreciation and holy thanks for his ultimate sacrifise.

A life under God, is the only correct life.

And those who are not under God, have not yet allowed themselves to be succumbed by his beacon of righteousness. And until they do, they will not feel salvation in their Earthly lives and they will not be granted access to his Holy Kingdom in the after life.

Typhoid · 09-23-2004, 01:13 AM

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Originally Posted by GameMaster

Dearest Sean, you are missing the stress of our proclamations.

It is not WHAT you do for God, but rather WHY you do for God.

We serve God in appreciation and holy thanks for his ultimate sacrifise.

A life under God, is the only correct life.

And those who are not under God, have not yet allowed themselves to be succumbed by his beacon of righteousness. And until they do, they will not feel salvation in their Earthly lives and they will not be granted access to his Holy Kingdom in the after life.

Dearest Jeff.

What exactly did God sacrifice?

No, the life under God is not the only correct life, I am living a correct life without god. Its subjective. You think Im wrong for not believing in God, and while i dont think your wrong, i dont understand it, nor will I.

I feel salvated, thank you very much.

Dont make assumptions about how athiests live and think. We are the same people. Just because we dont pray to some imaginary old man in the sky doesnt mean were wrong, It means we have different beliefs, in a way, Atheism could be considered a religion. In a way. Not a religious way.

Joeiss · 09-23-2004, 01:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Typhoid

Dearest Jeff.

What exactly did God sacrifice?

What did God sacrifice? WHAT DID GOD SACRIFICE?

What do you think the basis of Christianity is? God sacrificed his only Son for us. That is what God sacrificed for us.

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Originally Posted by Typhoid

Do you take a big steamy sh*t every morning in Gods name?

Have you ever had pre-marital sex for God? (Totally forget which religions that is for)

I understand where you come from and what your saying, i justhate it when people seem to push their religion, or religious beliefs upon me. I know nobody is directing them at me...well....except GM in his last post. But its no big deal.

I just dont get the idea of devoting your life to something.

But i revert back to what i said, religion is geographical.

If any of us grew up in the Middle East, we would be Muslim, (most likely) If we grew up in Utah, we would be Mormon, if we grew up in Japan we would be Shintoists.

How many American born, white Shintoists do you see?

How many Asian born Muslims are there?

9And yes, I am singling out certain religions, because these are the only ones that came to my head.)

No, I have never had pre-marital sex.

I do not think anybody here is pushing their beliefs on you. You are just making some random statements about people's religion, and they are posting what they feel about it. Calm down.

You don't get the idea of devoting your life to something? So when you are married and have kids, you won't be devoting your life to them? When you have a well-paying job that you love, you won't devote a large portion of your life to that? I think devoting our lives to God is a great way to get by in the real world. It teaches us morals and when we have our own families, it teaches us how to devote ourselves to them better.

Yes, religion is mostly geographical, but you forgot to mention how many people convert during their lives. Many people convert to Christianity, and many people convert out of it. Most people are shown different religiions and different paths, so they can find their way in life.

GameMaster · 09-23-2004, 01:48 AM

Misguided Sean,

God sacrifised his one and only son to pay for mankind's sins. And as long as you believe in him, you will not perish, you will instead go on to a glorious life of eternal peace and happiness.

You say that you are living a correct life and that you feel salvated but these are illusions you are tempted with by the spirit and soul of evil. They are unauthentic feelings and made only to pull you away from the correct path which is servitude under God. You are falling to temptations, but you can be saved and rekindled by the power of God just as long as you place your faith in his Almighty hands. If you can't do it alone, there are people who can help you, myself included. I believe you will do the right thing.

Canyarion · 09-23-2004, 04:37 AM

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Originally Posted by The Germanator

You sound like those damned Jehovah's that come to my door every month.

THANKS!

So now I'm damned because I'm a Jehovah's Witness???

I am not the one pushing my belief on anyone here...

And besides, we don't visit you every month. More like twice a year.

The Duggler · 09-23-2004, 11:41 PM

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Originally Posted by GameMaster

The Bible teaches me to be a kind and compassionate person. Anyone who doesn't read it cannot be kind or compassionate. Simple equation: read the Bible and you'll be a good person and you'll have a utopian afterlife. If you don't read it, you're not a good person and you won't have an enjoyable afterlife.

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The Bible is no ordinary book my comrade, it is a book of God. Whether the Bible you read from is from a hotel or from a museum, it is better than all other books of this world. And that is not an opinion, it is pure fact and truth.

Am I the only one here that thinks that those quotes are terribly wrong and offensive?

It's one think to believe in something my friend, but it's another to say that anybody or anything else that is not part of your beliefs is inferior. It's obnoxious, and the cause of all the inter-religious conflicts of this world.

Keep up the good work, gamemaster...

The Germanator · 09-23-2004, 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Canyarion

THANKS!

So now I'm damned because I'm a Jehovah's Witness???

I am not the one pushing my belief on anyone here...

And besides, we don't visit you every month. More like twice a year.

I don't personally have anything against them...It's just that I don't understand why they have to keep coming back. We live in the country, in the middle of nowhere. They have to drive out to see us...it just seems like a lot of effort for a cause that if it doesn't work the first time you come to someone's house, it probably will not work the second time.

Anyway, I think the reason they keep returning is because my Step-dad is always real nice to them. If he isn't home I usually just pretend I'm not there either so I don't have to interact with them and feel awkward...

Canyarion, you've never come to my door, so you're not damned.

Crono · 09-23-2004, 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Nitram

Am I the only one here that thinks that those quotes are terribly wrong and offensive?

Though I was raised as Catholic, that has to be one of the most retarded things I've ever read at these forums. And would no doubt be offense to A LOT of people. Now whether or not he was serious, I don't know, and don't care.

Good job, GameMaster!

thatmariolover · 09-24-2004, 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Joeiss

If you are a non-believer, you will not go to heaven. If you believe in God, you will.

If you are a non believer, you still did a great thing, but it is meaningless. Christians live their lives to go to heaven for eternity. I am not sure if you understand that. So everything that we do should be done for our faith.

Okay, so if I go out on a killing spree and murder 1,000 people I’m gonna go to Heaven as long as I believe in God?

Sounds like you can justify what happened on 9/11 just because the people who did it believe in their God. Or maybe not, since they don’t believe in your Christian God? So then, anybody who isn’t Christian is going to Hell right?

So what about the millions of people that grow up in small countries that are never even introduced to Christianity? Just because they weren’t taught about your Christian beliefs they’re gonna go to Hell? You believe that any loving God would condemn so many people for an ignorance they didn’t choose to have? I mean... Wow...

Why should somebody be judged by what they believe? That’s not important. Who you are, what you feel, and why you live your life the way you live it – somehow those things seem a little bit more important. But maybe that’s just me.

I just can’t believe how intolerant some Christians are. It just disgusts me to be one sometimes...

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Originally Posted by GameMaster

The Bible is no ordinary book my comrade, it is a book of God. Whether the Bible you read from is from a hotel or from a museum, it is better than all other books of this world. And that is not an opinion, it is pure fact and truth.

It was written by men in the name of God. Just because I take a crap and say God told me to do it doesn't mean he did. I believe what God shows me. I don't have to believe everything that was written in a book by a bunch of people thousands of years ago. I believe some of the things in the Bible. I'm a Christian, I believe in Jesus. But that has nothing to do with me being a good person.

jeepnut · 09-24-2004, 01:04 AM

I would like to remind everyone that this is Gamemaster making these statements. Let's think about that for a second. Is it even possible for him to be serious when talking about something other than video games?

Canyarion · 09-24-2004, 04:32 AM

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Originally Posted by The Germanator

I don't personally have anything against them...It's just that I don't understand why they have to keep coming back. We live in the country, in the middle of nowhere. They have to drive out to see us...it just seems like a lot of effort for a cause that if it doesn't work the first time you come to someone's house, it probably will not work the second time.

Anyway, I think the reason they keep returning is because my Step-dad is always real nice to them. If he isn't home I usually just pretend I'm not there either so I don't have to interact with them and feel awkward...

Canyarion, you've never come to my door, so you're not damned.

Well first of all, if you pretend to not be at home, yes, they will come back next week.
We keep track of who was home and who wasn't, so you better just open up.

And there are plenty of cases where people were always agressive towards us, but after a while something happens and they're suddenly interested and became our brother or sister.
Coming back helps, really.

And perhaps I don't come at your door, but I come at others, so........

Think about it, if we do so much effort to tell people, it must be very important.

Typhoid · 09-24-2004, 04:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Canyarion

And there are plenty of cases where people were always agressive towards us, but after a while something happens and they're suddenly interested and became our brother or sister.
Coming back helps, really.

Whenever Jehovas or whoever it maybe come to our door, we let them in, then My dad and me try and convert them to Atheism. Its quite humerous, really.